Talk:2014 FIFA World Cup qualification (CONMEBOL)

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Rx to Mx

is it better to make Rx to Mx in the table contain all teams in horizontal and vertical because it stands for match days and R resembles round — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jitinkumar123 (talk • contribs)

I added header for this section. QED237 (talk) 14:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Entrants

Please don't change back again this page, I'm just doing the same format as the other pages concernig FIFA World Cup 2014 qualifications (AFC, CAF, CONCACAF), so it's clearer to everybody... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafa1985 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How does listing everything twice make things "clearer". It actually makes it more confusing because people need to work out whether the two lists are identical or not. The AFC/OFC/CONCACAF and CAF have sections that note that not all teams start in the same round. Confederations that all start together don't need a section to say "everyone starts together" and then another to say "everyone starts together". This is now 2010 was handled, why should 2014 be any different. Even worse, the formatting (50+ teams in the case of UEFA in two columns- why???) fills up an entire page with pointless guff before you actually get to what people might actually care about. Jlsa (talk) 12:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Reference 2 has nothing to do with what it is supposed to be a reference for... It's a citations for the stadium Argentina is playing at but the reference is a news item about Mexico playing a friendly against France (granted, because they can't play Argentina, but still). 216.107.237.103 (talk) 02:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

El segundo fin de semana de noviembre, el equipo que ahora está a cargo de Alejandro Sabella recibirá a Bolivia en Mendoza. (Sabella is in charge of Argentina). I don't speak Spanish and that's clear to me. Jlsa (talk) 10:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, sorry about that, but it's not decided (http://www.ole.com.ar/seleccion/Monumental_0_571142928.html) so I'm removing that. 216.107.237.103 (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Although I can't really read that (and the translation I get is gibberish), it would seem you are correct. Thanks for the explanation (it makes a nice change when people actually tell you why they are doing things) Jlsa (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Paraguay Eliminated

There are still mathematical possibilities for Paraguay to qualify, even directly as a fourth place team. Need to remove pink bar.

ARG goes W B L W W = 34 COL goes W T W W L = 30 ECU goes L T W W W = 30 CHI goes L T B L L = 19 VEN goes L T T L B = 18 PER goes L L T L L = 15 URU goes W W L L L = 19 BOL goes W L L B W = 16 PAR goes B W W W W = 20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.62.241.51 (talk) 04:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's mathematically impossible to qualify with less than 23 points. Paraguay can only get to 20. You are forgetting some teams will still play 4 more games and others will play 5. MarcosPassos (talk) 16:54, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clinching Scenarios Venezuela Ecuador Uruguay Colombia

Venezuela cannot qualify directly because they have 16 points with 2 matches remaining, which maxes them out at 22 points. Ecuador and Uruguay are tied at 22, with a matchup against each other, which will result in either team ending up with 23/25 points. Great50 (talk) 00:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Venezuela cannot qualify period. Even if they have won the final game, at best they will tie Ecuador and Uruguay at 22 points. IIRC tied teams are first determined by head to head results, in which case Venezuela will lose out on both Ecuador and Uruguay. Venezuela at best will be stuck at sixth place. Alcatrazhack (talk) 03:47, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Colombia qualified. The best that Ecuador and Uruguay can do is to tie each other, then win both of their remaining match. With tie breakers being points between the teams only, Right now it is Colombia 6 (all done), Ecuador and Uruguay 4 (one game left, against each other). So no matter what happened, if all three teams tied, Colombia will finish either 1st or 2nd of this three team group, which will make it third or fourth in the standing. Hence qualifications.Alcatrazhack (talk) 04:02, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Colombia is not qualified. The first tie-breaking rule is goal difference, not head-to-head. So they can still finish 5th. If all the following happens, Colombia, Ecuador and Uruguay will be tied on points and the team with the worst GD will play the play-off:

Colombia lose to Chile and Paraguay.

Ecuador draw with Uruguay.

Ecuador defeat Chile.

Uruguay defeat Argentina.

Schnapper (talk) 06:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Suarez's 11 goals

Luis Suarez scored 11 goals in the qualifiers, not 10 like the article shows. Source: [1]. This can also be found by counting his goals in the individual matches in the article. By the way, the article used to show 11 goals until it was erroneously changed. King Philip V of Spain (talk) 14:19, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I am satisfied with that. QED237 (talk) 14:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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