Talk:2013 Czech parliamentary election

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On 13 April 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2013 Czech legislative election to 2013 Czech parliamentary election. The result of the discussion was moved.

Seriously people. Learn to sort the damn polls correctly

This is not the first poll I've been looking through that's sorted date first. It does not WORK in computer language. You must sort it by year, month then date. Everything is messed up here and in the German polls as well. 37.123.172.34 (talk) 23:42, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Parliament voted yes for elections 25-26 October 2013

It has been decided by the Czech Parliament on 20 August 2013, that the next Czech election shall be held within 60 days, and the president announced he will select the event to take place on 25-26 October 2013. Thus, I have now moved the page from Next Czech legislative election to Czech legislative election, 2013. Danish Expert (talk) 15:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed redundant info and excessive details without notability

Recently I have now twice (together with Vejvančický) reverted two undoings by Lihaas: [1] and [2], to bring back the article to its version preferred yesterday by me and Vejvančický. It appear we are two editors who prefer to remove a redundant sentence, about on what dates the president likely will schedule the upcoming elections. Instead of the long previous line, this has now been explained by a much shorter line (based on the same source), one line below in the same paragraph. The other disputed shortening, is that the same two editors both agreed yesterday only to include the essential and noteworthy part of Schwarzenberg's campaign statement. Please present your arguments, if you insist we have made a bad call here. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 05:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Context

User:Lihaas updated the article with the following text:

TOP 09 leader Karel Schwarzenberg said the main issue for his party during the campaign would be the clash Zeman and his so-called attempted abuse of the constitution. He added: At first, we wanted to launch a European election campaign, but now the defence of parliamentary democracy is the issue. In fact, the republic is the issue. However, how comes that it should be me who is to defend the republican constitution? I feel sorry for Petr Nečas. Did you see the photo of the head of his office? He used to be a model pupil who failed to grasp what kind of temptations await him outside the school. When he was confronted with them as an adult man, he was helpless.

I wrote on Lihaas' talk page: Hi Lihaas, thanks for the update, however, I miss some context there: ... how comes that it should be me who is to defend the republican constitution?, said Schwarzenberg, and he said it because he's a member of the old Bohemian nobility (<Personal attack redacted>). Also his remark about Nečas is a bit pointless and misleading unless you reveal who was the head of his office and the context of this story. However, it has little to do with the election, at least in my opinion. Thank you for your interest in the political situation in the Czech Rep. Best regards. - Vejvančický

Lihaas left my note without answering and I removed the part marked in green. Lihaas reverted with the edit summary "campauign words" [sic].

Another editor (User:Danish Expert) reverted again, stating: "Reinstated the shorter and more candid version by Vejvančický. The chop away details are not interestting/important - but just talk."

Lihaas reverted again, with the edit summary: "not interesting to who? YOU are not all readers"

I reverted again and now I'm here. I don't think it is the most important issue in the world, but I would appreciate if we could discuss and resolve it here instead of reverting. Thank you all for your understanding.

--Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

its fin ewithout that. The rest of the quote is there.

Resolved

(Lihaas (talk) 12:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

Is Jiří Rusnok a man without confidence in himself ?

When checking the result of the 7 August confidence result, I got very surprised to find that Jiří Rusnok apparently had voted against himself?!?!? After scratching my neck for a while, I fortunately just managed to discover from the Czech Wikipedia, that we have two Czech politicians sharing the same name, leading to my confusion. It was Jiří Rusnok from the LIDEM party, who voted against the prime minister Jiří Rusnok. Quiet funny. To ensure clarity about this, I think one of us should soon create a stub article for LIDEM's Jiří Rusnok (born 1983) for the English Wikipedia. Do any of you have time to do that? Danish Expert (talk) 16:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

links

For the general campaign section about the issues (corruption)[3][4](Lihaas (talk) 15:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

Percentage Change Column??

Seriously on nearly every other election page there's a PP change column, does anybody have any objections as to why there shouldn't be one here? Guyb123321 (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the case - it's present on a few, but the vast majority do not have one. It's completely unnecessary. We have a seats change column and I think that's sufficient. Number 5 7 18:28, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary that clearly is the case, look at the wikipedia page for the last general elections in the UK, Spain, Germany, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Holland etc etc. It isn't "completely unnecessary" as you said because % change matters as well as seat count. For example the Pirate Party got 2.66% of the vote but despite this being a big success for the party (Up from just 0.8% 3 years ago) It doesn't look that way when you just consider seat changes.

A party could go from nothing to 4.99% of the vote and not get a single additional seat, or if a few parties dropped below the 5% threshold the other parties could still gain seats based on fewer votes because of it, that is why I think it is necessary to have a percentage change column added.

Sorry, you are wrong - you've listed nine articles and there are several thousand, very few of which have the extra column. As an example, you mention Norway - there are 63 parliamentary election articles just two of which have the column you to. Number 5 7 15:25, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless the fact is it seems to be the norm for most of the recent elections across europe to put in a PP change column. While it may not be in everyone, it tends to be in all of the latest ones, including ones in the Czech Republic, for example the elections to the European Parliament. I dont see why it shouldnt be included here as well Guyb123321 (talk) 17:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how it can be "regardless" when you've twice tried to claim we should have it because the majority of other articles do. Now you've accepted that you were wrong, you're just changing your argument. TBH, the column should probably be removed from the other articles. Number 5 7 18:07, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why should it be removed from other articles? It is a very useful tool in seeing how political parties, especially minor parties do. I believe it should be added because it makes the article better and it makes it easier to compare how political paries did, can you tell me why you dont support its insertion?Guyb123321 (talk) 21:08, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with Guyb123321. Percentage change is a useful statistic, used in both some other Wikipedia articles and in reliable source coverage of elections. I don't understand the argument against it. Bondegezou (talk) 11:50, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

polls

Can someone adds Free Citizen Party to polls? 193.151.79.239 (talk) 17:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ER...

The total amount of the parties' (including the "others") percentages should been 100%. I repeat, 100%! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.237.66.67 (talk) 15:56, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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