Talk:2013 Christchurch East by-election

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By-election date

The Press is consistently reporting that the by-election will be held on 30 November, and I'm a bit puzzled by that. My understanding is that the date will get set through the writ, and that will only be issued once Dalziel has resigned. Given that Dalziel is a long time away from resigning and has only foreshadowed her intention of doing so, where do they get the date from? Schwede 66 20:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles for candidates

Keen to write an article for any of the candidates? Well, please feel free to contribute to the article on Poto Williams that is being written in the NZ politics project space. Do not feel tempted to start an article on the live Wikipedia prior to the election; those articles usually get deleted (for lack of notability, and because it's not being looked on favourably to use Wikipedia as an election tool). This page has some general tips how to go about it. If opinion polls in coming weeks tell us that the National candidate will have a chance of winning, then we'll probably prepare a draft article for him, too. Any questions, please ask. Schwede 66 10:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I quote from that part of the manual of style that deals with infoboxes:

When considering any aspect of infobox design, keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts in the article in which it appears. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance. ... wherever possible, present information in short form, and exclude any unnecessary content.

With regards to election infoboxes, I have always taken this to mean that we list main candidates, and it is certainly against the spirit of the MOS guidance to list all candidates. With regards to the local elections that we've just had, let's look at those infoxes that cover mayoral elections:

City.	No of candidates	Candidates in infobox	Lowest polling candidate included	Percentage votes of next candidate
Christchurch	12	2	22.5%	3rd candidate polled 1%
Dunedin	9	3	16.0%	4th candidate polled 8.1%
Hamilton	8	2	35.5%	3rd candidate polled 8.3%^[1]
Wellington City	6	3	14.4% before last STV iteration	4th candidate polled 7.3%^[2]

So, the standard practice is that we show those candidates that have a chance of polling north of 10% or thereabouts. Hence, we should purge the infobox of those candidates that obviously won't even get 5%. We know who those candidates are, even prior to the first poll. Any objections or different thoughts? If not, I shall go ahead and reduce the infobox to standard practice. Schwede 66 05:35, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On that basis the Greens candidate ought to be removed, as there is no way we can be sure he will get over 10%, or even over 5%, or under 5%. Mathmo ^Talk 05:55, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

^ http://www.hamilton.co.nz/our-council/elections-2013/results/Documents/HCC-PreliminaryResult-2013.pdf Hamilton results; yet to be added to WP article
^ http://wellington.govt.nz/~/media/have-your-say/elections/files/2013election/preliminaryresults.pdf Wellington results; not complete in WP article

Quite happy to have just the main candidates listed in the infobox. In the past few by-elections they have all had the highest 3 polling candidates in the infobox. Mattlore (talk) 05:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Waste of time putting more than the top couple, eg Mount_Albert_by-election,_2009 had 15 candidates with the bottom 10 all getting less than 100 votes each. - SimonLyall (talk) 06:34, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re Mount Albert 2009, I would have put the top three in the infobox myself, as they were the candidates achieving above 10% of the vote. A case could be made to include the ACT candidate (as has been in this case), given that the candidate was already a list MP. In my opinion, it's more useful to go by how the votes fall rather than have a set number of positions shown in the infobox. Schwede 66 09:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to other articles where they've included certain candidates that got over whatever portion of the vote isn't that helpful, because my point was we can't really base the inclusion/exclusion of candidates based on speculation of what they may or may not get in the future. It would make the most sense to me to only include the two from the Government and Opposition, or to use some other measure that isn't based on crystal ball predictions such as say all candidates from parties currently represented in parliament. Mathmo ^Talk 19:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photo for Doocey

Does anybody have a freely licensed photo of Doocey that we can use on Wikipedia? I wrote to the National Party a couple of weeks back with a request for a photo, but they haven't even graced me with an acknowledgement. Does anybody have more promising links to National? Schwede 66 10:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://www.hamilton.co.nz/our-council/elections-2013/results/Documents/HCC-PreliminaryResult-2013.pdf Hamilton results; yet to be added to WP article

[2] ttp://wellington.govt.nz/~/media/have-your-say/elections/files/2013election/preliminaryresults.pdf Wellington results; not complete in WP article

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