Talk:2012 Bojangles' Southern 500

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after logging their 199th win, Hendrick Motorsports had to wait for seven months and sixteen races before they won their 200th NASCAR Cup Series, with Jimmie Johnson at the wheel?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: HawkAussie (talk · contribs) 03:17, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will be picking this one up and hopefully I can able to review this.

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Lead

...it after a second pit stop cycle. - Maybe slighty change that to it after the second pit stop cycle.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Johnson took the first position for the... - Should this be "took the lead" to keep it consist over the article.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...green–white–checker finish (extending the race to 368 laps), - Is the section is the () bracket needed because you had already mentioned it earler in the sentence or is this a misspell because you had lap 367 in the race section
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...field and he held the lead to win the race. - Maybe modify to "held it to..."
- Done MWright96 (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The race attracted 5.716 million television viewers. - I assume this is referencing to the infobox as it seems out of place otherwise.
- It's the standard in NASCAR race report articles MWright96 (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background

was third in the Drivers' Championship with 369 poinits - You could probably remove the in the drivers championship in that section.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No. 73 car in a third car - Probably best to remove the "in a third car" section.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Practice and qualifying

...120 minutes long, while the second lasted 45 minutes. - I assume you missed the "long" in the second session for consistency.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Harvick was quickest with a time of 27.769 seconds in the first session,... - Maybe slighty change the sentence format so "in the first session" is at the start.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...a second of Harvick's time. Ryan Newman,... - Possibly of merging of those two short sentences.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Adding to that section, you have said the time in the second session but not in the first session.
- Only added the first of the fastest overall drivers in both practice sessions 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
...were entered in the qualifier on Friday evening, - Slighty change that 'into qualifying' on something along those lines as qualifier isn't really probably the best word to put in.
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...the fifth and sixth positions. - Slight rewording there.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 12:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Race

...(UTC−04:00) in the United States on Fox. Missing a reference that Fox was doing this race.
- Added MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will make it easier to say, do we really need to know what is happening outside of the top 10 drivers.
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Johnson got ahead of Biffle for the lead temporarily, but he did not hold it at the start/finish line. - Was this on the same lap as the Gordon contact with the wall?
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...began on the same lap. Biffle made his pit stop... - Possibly merge those sentences?
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...took over the spot for lap 101. - I assume this means lead here.
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...for the lap-179... - space between lap and 179.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...moved up another position by overtaking Truex for third on - Possible rewording here?
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kurt Busch was overtaken by Stewart on the 207th lap. Edwards slid sideways and was passed by Johnson three laps later. - Both of these sentences are missing the position that was gained here.
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...pit stops under the caution. Hamlin took the lead... - Possibly merge these two sentences.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...Biffle to claim fifth place. He got ahead of Stewart... - Another merge of sentences possibly?
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...claim the eleventh position. and Harvick overtook Bowyer... - Remove the full stop if keeping the drivers out of the drivers in the top 10
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...caution. It was caused by Labonte - Another one of possibly merging those two sentences.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
...he did not regain the first position - Maybe change it to regain the lead.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Post-race

that no person involved in fracas punched each other - Fracas???
- Clarified MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

The top copyvio pages that detected are only because of the quotes so that seems fine.
Only possible issue with references is number 3 as their seems to be a connection issue. Other than that, the rest seem to be fine.
- Fixed MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Possible an issue with two paragraphs only having the one reference right at the end of that particular paragraph.
- Added MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments

Is their possibly an image for that race in general (maybe logo for that race or something else) to not have the infobox feel like something is missing.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What about the using image of Kyle Busch in 2012 [1] instead of the picture in 2015 to make it more accurate.'
- Done MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Other than that I think it is close to a Good Article.
@HawkAussie: All of the points raised above have been addressed. MWright96 (talk) 05:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @MWright96: Congrats on the GA. HawkAussie (talk) 12:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:37, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the 2012 Bojangles' Southern 500 saw stock car driver Jimmie Johnson take the 200th NASCAR Cup Series race win for his team Hendrick Motorsports?
- ALT1: ... that stock car driver Jimmie Johnson claimed the 200th NASCAR Cup Series race win for Hendrick Motorsports at the 2012 Bojangles' Southern 500? Source: Jimmie Johnson wins Southern 500 for Hendrick Motorsports' 200th NASCAR Sprint Cup win: MassLive.com

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gospel Oak, Polstead

Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

- Good to go. Very well written article. Chris (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A more complete review is needed as not all of the DYK criteria have been checked. Simply saying "good to go" without additional context is insufficient for reviewing purposes. Courtesy ping @Miller17CU94:. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Per request and review. The article was created less than a week ago, contains 51k characters. The sourcing is adequate, neutral, and avoids plagarism. The hook is cited, interesting, and short enough to meet the required criteria. Chris (talk) 22:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook is more narrative than hook. Could you write this in a hookier way, or provide a different angle? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Done MWright96 (talk) 13:01, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: I restored the thread. How is that any different? The only part that's interesting is the 200th win. Meanwhile, there are too many numbers in the hook. Yoninah (talk) 16:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: After review, I am unable to come up with an alternative hook. MWright96 (talk) 14:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'd like to reduce the amount of numbers in the hook. How about:
ALT2: ... that after an interval of sixteen races in seven months, Hendrick Motorsports won their 200th NASCAR Cup Series with Jimmie Johnson at the wheel? Yoninah (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I am satisfied with the new hook. MWright96 (talk) 06:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Since I added some more details, we need another editor to review and approve ALT2. Pinging original reviewer @Miller17CU94:. Yoninah (talk) 15:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
: Aprroving ALT2. QPQ done, Improved to GA, no copyvio issues (only shows for quotes), natural, and hook is cited in the article. Good to go. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 11:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]