Talk:2011–12 Biathlon World Cup – World Cup 4

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Merging

This "sprint" article: '2011–12 Biathlon World Cup – Sprint Men' was created on December 9, 2011; and this one '2011–12 Biathlon World Cup – World Cup 4' was created on December 16, 2011. The former was obviously created earlier that should be expanded with its content as a 'sprint article,' a synonymous to (dash & run), while the latter is meant to be an event of "World Cup 4" of which discusses "relay", synonymous to (race) & "sprint", again synonymous to (dash & run) - obviously the same context with the former. Therefore, it would have been better to merge these two as a single worth reading article. — Rammaum^talk_stalk 04:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See User talk:Edgars2007#RE: Edit at 2011–12 Biathlon World Cup – World Cup 4. --Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 11:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not keep on reverting this article on your own previous edits specifically by removing the "merge template" as there is no consensus among the community. Moreover, you also have removed the "multiple issues" template without adjusting what is being asked for. Finally, do not make your poor English as an excuse to destroy Wikipedia's credibility. If you continue these reverts, then I must bring this to the Administrators' noticeboard. Do not take it too personal. — Rammaum^talk_stalk 15:38, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, then please say – why this article? There were 2 Relays, 2 Sprints and 2 Mass Starts. And please explain me what do you don't like in this article about:

"It may be confusing or unclear to readers" - what is confusing or unclear?
"Its tone or style may not reflect the formal tone used on Wikipedia."
"It may need to be wikified to meet Wikipedia's quality standards." - links to which articles?

--Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 17:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry because I do not hate this article. The reason for these tags is to be more adaptive to Wiki as an encyclopedic article, aka Wikify. Those experts will improve it gradually and remove these templates eventually. Thank you for your cooperation. Cheers! — Rammaum^talk_stalk 18:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

can you please answer edgars questios then, or remove the templates yourself, if people who actually understand the material cannot. No one who edits winter sports is ever going to agree to that merge, combining a calender event with totals for a specific discipline makes no sense for any sport.18abruce (talk) 18:48, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, you take issue with Edgars for removing templates without adjusting what is being asked for, he asked you for specifics and you provided nothing here, please provide your rationale, or remove them. Not understanding the subject matter is not sufficient, if you wish to improve Wikipedia, then provide what you perceive to be the issues because these pages are nearly direct duplicates of seven subsequent years that do not raise the same objections. This is the seventh year of linked pages that follow the same format, and instead of famaliarizing yourself with them, you make very strange suggestions for merging, and unexplained complaints about the presentations. It appears disengenous to have an explanation within the "Sprint" page of what precisely a "Sprint" event is, and then propose a merger based on some understanding of what the word sprint can mean.18abruce (talk) 21:11, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First of all don't take this issue too personal, I would answer what Edgar has asked above so please read its given link so it will better explain. Thank you.

The Lead section is "confusing" because it does not provide sufficient information what this article is about. Biathlon is a sport combination of rifle shooting & cross-country skiing. However he put in the article "World Cup 4" which needs clarification how come an event of 'Biathlon World Cup' has a World Cup 4 event.
The lead section contains date format which provides inappropriate businesslike manner tone or style that is unacceptable in Wiki standard. He should have used (January 4 – January 8 or January 4, 2012 – January 8, 2012) with a spaced en dash as suggested.
Finally, wikify is a legitimate WikiProject that attracts attention from advanced editor that will adapt the article to Wiki standards.

I hope you these clarify the issue. Though you edited and removed the 'wikify tag' you still failed to adapt wikify standard as I mentioned above so I will put it back. Cheers! — Rammaum^talk_stalk 05:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Let me clear yourself as you might confused me of something, I do not have any issue with Edgar because I do not own copyright any of the contents in this article nor he does. All the things I did was putting a legitimate Project Wikify tags to attract the attention of advanced editors and eventually adapt to Wiki standards. If this article clarifies it's independence of other 7 seven as you mentioned then you (Bruce) do it, Edgar do it or anyone do it so the merging tag appears invalid and proven weak with no merit. Because, to say someone claims of having 100% familiarity with Wiki rules, regulations & guidelines is a big lie and hypocrisy. Are you? — Rammaum^talk_stalk 07:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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