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Good article2010 Toyota/Save Mart 350 has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 17, 2010Good article nomineeListed

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:2010 Toyota/Save Mart 350/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Airplaneman ✈ Review? 03:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    If you want to pursue FA status, you need to flesh out the prose a bit. It's good enough for a GA, though.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    A few more third party references will be needed for an FA.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    I would recommend requesting a peer review at FA level if you are aiming for FA status. Your hard work has paid off; you now can claim credit for another of Wikipedia's good articles. I had fun reviewing the article and working with you. Congratulations! Airplaneman ✈ Review? 18:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Detailed review

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I'm going to take it section by section. All unsigned comments are mine (so don't forget to sign your posts! ) in order to reduce clutter. Finished tasks can be streaked with a strike-through line.

Lead and infobox
Background
Practice and qualifying
Race
  • Who is Tim Boeve?
  • Most of the summary is supported by one reference, number 19. I need one or two more third party sources.
  • Pretty much every sentence should be referenced so there is no doubt that the events actually happened. I know that you are putting citations at the end of paragraphs, but after you find more references, it would be nice to do that. Another option would be to put all references at the very beginning of the section. Here is an example. This saves you from referencing every sentence and confirms to the reader that everything is sourced.
    • The link you gave me does not have the refs at the beginning of the paragraph. There are not a lot of racing refs like the Lap-by Lap, but I will look. --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 23:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Erm... yes it does: "The specifications below are from Apple's "tech specs" page[9] or developer notes,[10] except where noted."
        • I always mess up on the references: like on my first article, User:Royalbroil told me to add the refs to the end when I put it before, while now your telling me the opposite. --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 02:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • So you put the refs at the very beginning like in Mac Pro and you were told otherwise?
            • Yes. --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 17:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Well not exactly like MacPro I put ut at the beginning of every paragraph.--Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 17:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
              • Well, I was looking for something like Mac Pro… anyway, I asked RoyalBroil about it.
                • I seen the edit, as I am wathcing his talk page, and I am completely fine adding the refs at the end of every sentence. --Nascar1996 Contributions / Guestbook 22:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                  • I've always seen references at the end of each sentence - that's how I do it and how I'd expect to see here. See Alan Kulwicki for a NASCAR example of what's close to Featured Article level. You'll notice an occasional thought that extends into 2 or 3 sentences. In those cases, the reference has been added at the last sentence of the group. I think you're thinking about the table in the article. Usually a reference that covers all or part of a table is placed at the first piece of information which came from that source. My opinion is that the best source for statistics in a race results table would be the official source - NASCAR. Royalbroil 02:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
                    • That makes sense. In that case, the current referencing looks fine at first glance.

A few lingering concerns:

Post-race
  • I tweaked the section a bit; nothing major needed to be fixed.
Race results
Standings after the race
Miscellany
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