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June 21, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

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Reviewer: The Bushranger (talk · contribs) 19:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Overall nice work here. Just has a few quibbles that need working on.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
Nice work here. Do have a few quibbles, however. To wit:

"The standard track at Phoenix International Raceway is a four-turn short track oval that is 1 mile (1.6 km) long." - No mention of the dogleg?
- How does "The back stretch, which has a dogleg shape instead of a straight..." work? -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The back stretch had a 9 degree banking." - might be better as "has 9 degrees of..."
- Done -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"was eleventh and twelfth" - "were", not "was"
- Done -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Edwards retained the pole position lead" - slightly awkward, perhaps "retained the lead from the pole position"?
- Done -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"collided into the wall" - appears several times but is also slightly awkward, would "...hit the wall in turn (#)" work?
- Since it doesn't specify which turn it occurred in, I just substituted "collided" with other words in the other instances. -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"reclaimed the lead away from Hamlin" - shoud be either "took the lead away from..." or "reclaimed the lead from..." I think.
- Done -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"caused him to fall to nineteenth on the grid" - sounds like the starting grid is being referenced. "...nineteenth in the field"?
- Done Removed "on the grid." -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In the results tables, "Stewart-Haas Racing" should have the dash.
- Done -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 19:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Article is fully and factually referenced, with citations throughout and free of WP:OR. I do have a quibble with the citation style used though, as it may be unclear to some viewers. I'd suggest using the following for certain sites, with the format work=/publisher=: Rotoworld.com = Rotoworld/NBC Sports; NASCAR.Com = NASCAR.com/Turner Sports; Jayski.com = Jayski's Silly Season Site/ESPN; racing-reference.info = Racing=Reference/USA Today Sports Media Group; MotorRacingNetwork.com = Motor Racing Network/International Speedway Corporation. Also, I'm not sure Auto Racing Daily is universally recognised as a reliable source, would it be possible to perhaps cite a newspaper report instead, like The Charlotte Observer's?
Done... I had to change the quotes while I was at it... -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 20:20, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
Article covers the event well and broadly without needless digression.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
Article is neutral.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Images are appropriate, appropriately licensed, and captioned.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Very close, just needs attention to the issues above; placed on hold until then. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like I have fixed all of the problems you have expressed. -- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 20:20, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And pass, good work! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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