Talk:2010 Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips at the Glen

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 19:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wait no longer for a review. One will be coming up! MWright96 (talk) 19:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
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It is stable.
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It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

"and would eventually lead to the race high of 74 laps." this would be better as and would eventually led a total of 74 laps, more than any other driver.
"There were five cautions and ten lead changes among five different drivers throughout the course of the race, Montoya's first win of the season and second in his career." - you don't need these two sentences combined to make one. Also the second parts should be worded to say Montoya's win was his first of the season and the second of his career

Done both. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Practice and qualifying

"The first session lasted 110 minutes, and the Friday afternoon session lasted 80 minutes." - ran for
"Harvick was scored fifth quickest with a fastest lap time of 1:11.355." - Harvick placed fifth with a fastest lap time three-tenths of a second off Biffle's pace.

Done both. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:35, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Race summary

Please remove the wikilink to Scott Blake. This man is/was not the Heluva Good! senior vice president of operations.
The Carl Edwards, Jamie McMurray, Juan Pablo Montoya, A. J. Allmendinger, Marcos Ambrose and the Kevin Harvick wikilinks aren't needed as they have already been linked as such earlier in the article. Also, don't use their full names in this instance.
"On the same lap, the first full course caution was given because P. J. Jones was stalled on track." - On the same lap, the first full course caution was given because P. J. Jones stalled on the track.
Added a wikilink for Green flag pit stops to Racing flags#Green flag.
"Two laps later, the second caution was given because Bobby Labonte and Joe Nemechek stopped in the Inner Loop." - How did they stop? We're they involved in an accident with each other?
"On lap 60, Montoya and Ambrose pitted," - made pit stops
"as the third caution waved because of the debris from his car.." - change the text highlighted in bold to because of debris from his car
"but the fifth caution came out on lap 72, as Johnson spun sideways, collided with the wall." - but the fifth caution came out two laps later, as Johnson spun sideways, and collided with the wall.
"On lap 75 under caution, the green flag waved with Montoya the leader." - The green flag waved on lap 75 with Montoya leading the field back up to speed.

Done all. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:42, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Results

The sortable tables need to sort by driver surname (use [[{{{first}}} {{{last}}}]].)
Furthermore the qualifying results table would benefit from being made sortable to quickly find a driver, or by team, or manufacturer.

Not done. Regarding the first one, this is the first time this issue has been addressed to me, though I noticed many of your articles do not use sortable tables. As someone who is all for consistency, I think it would extremely tedious to make this change for every article I've promoted. The second fix would also be quite tedious since I've been told at FLC that sortable lists require wikilinks throughout the entire table. Personally, I'd simply be for making the race results table unsortable, though I'll wait for your thoughts before I make any changes. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:47, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

The second reference requires Associated Press to be added as it is the agency who provided USA Today with their information.
Reference 17 is missing the date it was published and the agency that provided ESPN with the story
The work on the 20th reference should be plain NASCAR for consistency.

Done all. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

With all the points raised above, this article will be put on hold until some action has been taken to address them. MWright96 (talk) 21:29, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96:

Done everything except the tables; see above for my comments there. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bcschneider53: Thanks for making the changes suggested Ben. As for the sortable table I won't hold up the GA over this issue but it is something worth considering should you ever wish to further develop the article as the same thing was suggested when the 2008 UAW-Dodge 400 reached FAC. Of course it's not mandatory but it may be of a convenience to readers should anyone think so. Nevertheless this article can now be given the GA circle. Good work! MWright96 (talk) 07:50, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]