Talk:2010 Football League Two play-off final

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April 1, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
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January 24, 2024	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 25, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 2010 Football League Two play-off Final* at Wembley Stadium was won by "a pub team from Essex"?*
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Playoff

Dag & Red 6 - 0 Morecambe Done
Morecambe 2 - 1 Dag & Red (agg 2 - 7) Done
Aldershot 0 - 1 Rotherham Done
Rotherham 2 - 0 Aldershot (agg 3 - 0) Done

Background

FCHD Rotherham Done
FCHD Daggers Done
Rotherham scorers Done
Daggers scorers Done
Racing Post Done
Racing Post ii Not done
Times Done

Match

BBC asit Done
BBC rep Done
11v11 h-2-h Done
11v11 rep Done
Telegraph Done
Times Done
Journal Done
Guardian Done

Post

BBC Done
Evening Chronicle Done
Huddersfield Daily Examiner Not done

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... that the 2010 Football League Two play-off Final at Wembley Stadium was won by "a pub team from Essex"?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wild Woody
Comment: Obv a shot at "quirky" here.

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 18:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi The Rambling Man, review follows; article 5x expanded from 7 February; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what appear to be reliable sources; I didn't notice any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a random spotcheck on the sources; hook is interesting (and quirky!), I've put the pub team bit in quotations as D&R aren't actually a pub team (let me know if this is an issue); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 12:16, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow that's fine, I was on the fence with it, hence my suggestion that it's a quirky candidate (where quotes etc are often just dropped to increase the sexiness). Not fussed either way, thanks for the review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:17, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, happy if the promotor wants to drop the quotes when building the set if they want to. Forgot to add the tick, so here it is - Dumelow (talk) 12:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 07:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

May as well note that Barry Roche was the goalie.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What time was the opening goal?
Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Scott then scored a 19-minute hat-trick to make it 4–0 with more than half an hour remaining. — Three goals in one sentence? This could be expanded a fair amount.
It could but then it's not the subject of the article. I don't want one leg of the semi-final to be so much larger than the final report. It covers the essential details, i.e. that Scott scored three goals. Realistically, the absolute essentials for GAN would be the scoreline of the semi-final, but I've set the standard a bit higher. Think of it a bit like MOS:PLOT, it doesn't really matter how amazing and interesting the movie is, the synopsis still has to fit into 200 (say) words. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Benson scored his second and Dagenham's fifth midway through the second half; before Scott scored his fourth three minutes later. — Details?
See above. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dagenham became the first team to score more than five goals in the first leg of a league play-off semi-final. — For how many years had playoff semifinals been a thing?
They started in 1987, the details on that are in the English Football League play-offs article. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mark Duffy's volley from close range made it 1–0 to Morecambe before Benson headed in an equaliser. — Minutes?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
made the final score 2–1 — To who?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
shot past substitute goalkeeper Mikhael Jaimez-Ruiz in the Aldershot goal — Why was Aldershot playing a backup goalie?
First choice was injured (doesn't say how) in the first half, now added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

They had suffered relegation to the fourth tier of English football when they lost to Swansea City in the semi-finals of the 1988 Football League play-offs — You can be relegated after making it to the semifinals?
Yes, in 1988 the teams near the bottom of the league played against the teams near the top of the league below in the play-offs, so the teams in the league above were playing to avoid relegation while those below were playing for promotion. It's there in the play-off article linked. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

The match kicked off around 3 p.m. on 30 May 2010 in front of 32,054 spectators. — Where?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rotherham's goalkeeper Andy Warrington saving a shot from Green — When?
Not mentioned. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
unsporting behaviour — For what?
The source says "unsporting behaviour" without going into detail. Lucky to have that to be honest. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Warrington kept the resulting free kick from Green out. — Penalty kick?
No, only a penalty if the foul is conceded in the penalty area. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
le Fondre was also booked — Why?
For "unsporting behaviour", added.
before being booked — When/why?
Added, added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match

We'll probably be the biggest-ever favourites to be relegated — Why?
Almost invariably teams that get promoted are most likely to be relegated. Dagenham in particular were punching above their weight even in League Two, let alone League One. But as it's a quote, you'd probably have to ask him what his thinking was around that. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Roberts, Dagenham's 40-year-old goalkeeper ... Dagenham goalscorer Green — Green was a midfielder, no?
That's right, the first says "goalkeeper" and the second says "goalscorer". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, my mistake. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:50, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

The Rambling Man, over to you. --Usernameunique (talk) 07:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique cheers, all addressed/responded to above, thanks for the review as always! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, looks good, passing now. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:50, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]