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Rivals.com

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Rivals.com is nothing more than an opinion web site. While it might be run by experts, these so called experts have no certifiable credentials, and only have jobs because people pay for subscriptions. Also, similar web sites could conceivably have much different results. Thirdly, these players have not actually taken the field yet, so it's nothing more than an OPINION that Alabama's recruiting class is #1. It's no more encyclopedic than a sportswriter predicting a record of 8-4 or 9-3 in 2008. There's no reason to include either in this article.

Secondly, I don't see the recruiting rankings listed on the pages of the 2007, 2006, 2005 teams, etc. I have the impression that the only reason you include it here is that Bama was ranked #1, thus I have some inclination to think it might be a slight non-NPOV issue as well.CH52584 (talk) 02:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the way you are presenting this, you may have an argument. But is the AP Top 25 not the same thing? It's a poll—as the recruiting ranks—by sportswriters and I'm sure not all of them have 'certifiable credentials'. Latics (talk) 03:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the end result of the AP Top 25 has influence over other events, such as bowl placement. The rivals.com rankings have no possible effect on future events.CH52584 (talk) 03:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DefCoach spot in template

First off there is nothing that says only one name can be used in Template:NCAATeamFootballSeason and it is simply silly to try to say that. Alabama is pretty unique in the fact they use three coaches to call defensive plays. Nick Saban (head coach), Kevin Steele (Head Defensive Coach) and Kirby Smart (Defensive Coordinator). There is not ONE specific person to go in that spot, there are two. Kevin Steele and Kirby Smart. The template has read like this for just about the entire season and has been fine. I was simply correcting Kevin Steele's official title. There is no need to change it from its current state and there is no logic in changing it. Rtr10 (talk) 23:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm split on the whole thing. The infobox does say defensive coordinator, which actually would be Kirby Smart... So I'm split on having either both on there, or just Smart. – LATICS talk 23:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah and technically the template page says the Defensive Coordinator goes in that spot, so if its just one in the spot is should be smart, but as my explanation above, Alabama doesn't really just have one defensive coordinator. It is really more of a co-coordinator situation, they just have different titles. I believe the way we have it formatted right now is about as good as we can get it. Rtr10 (talk) 23:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Steele is the head defensive coach, which is generally called a coordinator. That's what the field is for. Infoboxes are for summary info only. If they were co-cordinates then listing both would be fine. However, I'm not going to bother arguing/discussing this anymore. Do what you want.. -Fnlayson (talk) 23:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are very few teams, in fact I don't know of a single other college football program, that use the title Head Defensive Coach for Defensive Coordinator, especially when they have another coach with the title "Defensive Coordinator". Kevin Steele is not the Defensive Coordinator, he is the Head Defensive Coach. Does he game plan and call plays? Yes, but so does Kirby Smart, just as my original explanation states. There is really not a argument to it. That's just what the way it is at Alabama. No need to be rude or hostile. We just need to be correct in our information. Rtr10 (talk) 00:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. I'm sure all the assistants help with the game plans. Actually Coach Oliver did not have a coordinator title until like '94, but he served as the Def Coord. before that. -Fnlayson (talk) 00:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Team stats

All of the season stats have been moved here as a reference per WP:NOTSTATSBOOK. Patriarca12 (talk) 01:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In their game against the Mississippi State Bulldogs, running back Mark Ingram set an Alabama record for rushing touchdowns by a freshman.^[1] The previous record holder was Terry Grant, who set it in previous season.

Team

Statistics^[2]	Alabama	Opponents
Scoring	422	200
Points per game	30.1	14.3
First downs	263	197
Rushing	133	60
Passing	112	120
Penalties	18	17
Total offensive yards	4,981	3,689
Rushing	2,585	1,038
Passing	2,396	2,651
Fumbles–Lost	19–10	20–10
Penalties–Yards	57–520	87–666
Average per game	4.1–37.1	6.2–47.6

Statistics	Alabama	Opponents
Punts–Yards	61–2,460	94–3,782
Average per punt	40.3	40.2
Average ToP/game	32:08	27:52
3rd down conversions	76–183	56–199
3rd down percentage	42	28
4th down conversions	8–10	10–20
4th down percentage	80	50
Touchdowns scored	52	25
Field goals–Att–Long	20–30–54	9–16–43
PAT–Att	46–48	23–23
Attendance	644,966	364,238
Average	92,138	91,060

Scores by quarter

	1	2	3	4	OT	Total
Alabama	133	121	108	54	6	422
Opponents	48	37	38	77	0	200

Offense

Rushing

Name	GP-GS	Att	Yds	Avg	Long	TD	Avg/G
Glen Coffee	14–14	233	1,383	5.9	87	10	98.8
Mark Ingram	14–0	143	728	5.1	40	12	52.0
Roy Upchurch	10–0	58	350	6.0	62	4	35.0
Terry Grant	14–0	35	88	2.5	18	1	6.3
Jeramie Griffin	2–0	6	29	5.0	8	0	14.5
Demetrius Goode	3–0	9	24	2.7	7	0	8.0
P. J. Fitzgerald	14–0	1	1	1.0	1	0	0.1
Marquis Maze	14–4	1	1	1.0	0	0	0.1
John Parker Wilson	14–14	72	−6	−0.1	20	5	−0.4
TEAM	14–0	10	−13	−1.3	0	0	−1.4
Total	14	568	2,585	4.6	87	32	184.6

Opponents	14	391	1,038	2.7	62	5	74.1

Passing

Name	GP-GS	Effic	Cmp-Att	Pct	Yds	TD	Int	Lng	Avg/G
John Parker Wilson	14–14	122.3	187–323	57.9	2,273	10	8	64	162.4
Greg McElroy	6–0	178.5	8–11	72.7	123	1	1	34	20.5

Total	14	124.1	195–334	58.4	2,396	11	9	64	171.1

Opponents	14	106.7	246–467	52.7	2,651	18	15	51	189.4

Receiving

Name	GP–GS	No.	Yards	Avg	TD	Long	Avg/G
Julio Jones	14–14	58	924	15.9	4	64	66.0
Nick Walker	14–11	32	324	10.1	2	40	23.1
Mike McCoy	13–9	16	191	11.9	1	30	14.7
Glen Coffee	14–14	16	118	7.4	1	15	8.4
Marquis Maze	14–4	11	137	12.5	2	34	9.8
Roy Upchruch	10–0	9	101	11.2	0	29	10.1
Earl Alexander	12–0	8	121	15.1	0	27	10.1
Darius Hanks	8–0	8	88	11.0	0	18	11.0
Brad Smelley	8–0	7	98	14.0	0	37	12.2
Mark Ingram	14–0	7	54	7.7	0	27	3.9
Travis McCall	14–12	7	52	7.4	0	12	3.7
Nikita Stover	14–5	6	101	16.8	1	39	7.2
Terry Grant	14–0	4	36	9.0	0	22	2.6
Will Oakley	8–0	2	27	13.5	0	13	3.4
B. J. Scott	9–0	2	7	3.5	0	7	0.8
Jeramie Griffin	2–0	1	9	9.0	0	9	4.5
Preston Dial	12–1	1	8	8.0	0	8	0.7

Total	14	195	2,396	12.3	11	64	171.1

Opponents	14	246	2,651	10.8	18	51	189.4

Defense

Name	GP–GS	Tackles				Sacks	Pass Defense				Fumbles		Blkd	Safety
Name	GP–GS	Solo	Ast	Total	Loss–Yds	No.–Yds	Int–Yds	BU	PD	Qbh	Rcv–Yds	FF	Kick	Safety
Rolando McClain	14–14	48	47	95	12.0–45	3.0–22	1–12	6		2	2–4
Rashad Johnson	14–14	60	29	89	5.0–15	1.0–7	5–125	11	7		1–0	1
Brandon Fanney	14–14	26	40	66	9.0–19	1.0–5		1		4	1–0
Dont'a Hightower	14–12	26	38	64	2.5–6					6	2–8	1
Javier Arenas	14–14	44	19	63	3.5–24	2.0–21	1–63	7	4	4
Marquis Johnson	14–3	32	17	49	1.0–4		2–7	5	4	1
Justin Woodall	14–14	33	14	47	1.5–4		4–99	8	7			2
Kareem Jackson	14–14	28	16	44	1.0–4		1–5	10	3		1–9		1
Bobby Greenwood	14–14	19	21	40	7.0–30	5.0–28		1		7	1–5		1
Brandon Deaderick	14–14	14	22	36	5.5–25	4.0–24				7
Cory Reamer	14–11	16	19	35	6.0–16	1.0–8				1		1
Ali Sharrief	14–2	20	11	31	2.5–7			5	1	4
Eryk Anders	14–0	14	10	24	4.5–26	2.5–22		1		7		2
Terrence Cody	12–12	7	17	24	4.5–14	0.5–5				2	2–0	1
Courtney Upshaw	13–0	12	10	22	3.0–3			2	1	1
Mark Barron	14–0	9	9	18	1.5–11	1.5–11
Prince Hall	12–0	7	10	17	2.0–5	0.5–4				1		1
Josh Chapman	13–2	9	7	16	4.0–7					1
Tyrone King	14–0	11	4	15						1		2
Lorenzo Washington	14–0	3	10	13	2.5–12	1.0–10				5
Chris Rogers	14–0	10	3	13			1–-6		1
Luther Davis	14–0	6	6	12	2.5–4					1
Leigh Tiffin	14–0	3	3	6
Robby Green	12–0	3	2	5
Chris Jackson	12–0	1	5	6
Charlie Higgenbotham	14–0	2	2	4	1.0–8	1.0–8
Marcel Dareus	8–0	1	3	4						3
Roy Upchurch	10–0		3	3									1
Jerrell Harris	10–0	1	2	3
Terry Grant	14–0	2	1	3
Chris Jordan	10–0		3	3
P.J. Fitzgerald	14–0	2	1	3
Glen Coffee	14–14	1	1	2
Milton Talbert	4–0	1	1	2
Travis McCall	14–12	2		2
Julio Jones	14–14	2		2
Nick Walker	14–11	1		1
Mike Johnson	14–14	1		1
Marquis Maze	14–4	1		1
Chavis Williams	5–0	1		1	1.0–9	1.0–9				1
Nick Gentry	9–0									1
TEAM	14–0													1

Total	14	480	406	886	83–298	26–189	15–305	57	29	60	10–8	11	3	1

Opponents	14	508	538	1046	58–264	25–178	9–83	38	12	44	9–0	11	4	0

Special teams

Kicking

Name	PATs			Field Goals
Name	Made	Att	%	Made	Att	Long	%
Leigh Tiffin	46	47	97.9	20	29	54	69.0
Corey Smith	0	1	0	0	1	0	0

Total	46	48	95.8	20	30	54	66.7

Punting

Name	No.	Yds	Avg	Long	TB	FC	In20
P. J. Fitzgerald	59	2,427	41.1	56	4	16	15
TEAM	2	33	16.5	20	0	0	0

Total	61	2,460	40.3	56	4	16	15

Returns

Name	Punt Returns					Kickoff Returns
Name	No.	Yds	Avg	TD	Long	No.	Yds	Avg	TD	Long
Javier Arenas	41	650	15.9	3	87	26	614	23.6	0	41
Julio Jones	2	11	5.5	0	10	1	21	21.0	0	21
Marquis Maze	2	8	4.0	0	5	1	19	19.0	0	19
Kareem Jackson	1	8	8.0	0	8	—
Roy Upchurch	1	6	6.0	0	6	—
Mark Barron	1	1	1.0	0	1	—
Marquis Johnson	1	0	0.0	0	0	—
Chris Rogers	0	17	17.0	1	17	—
Mike McCoy	—					5	60	12.0	0	23
Terry Grant	—					3	52	17.3	0	18
Mark Ingram	—					1	26	26.0	0	26
Baron Huber	—					1	15	15.0	0	15
Travis McCall	—					1	9	9.0	0	9
TEAM	—					1	0	0.0	0	0

Total	49	701	14.3	4	87	40	816	20.4	0	41

Opponents	27	242	9.0	1	92	81	1,765	21.8	1	96

References

^ "No. 1 Alabama Stays Unbeaten With 32–7 Win Over Mississippi State". University of Alabama Athletics. 2008-11-15. Retrieved 2008-11-16.
^ BAllen (2008-10-04). "Alabama Combined Team Statistics". University of Alabama Athletics. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2009-05-21. Retrieved 2008-10-05. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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[1] "No. 1 Alabama Stays Unbeaten With 32–7 Win Over Mississippi State". University of Alabama Athletics. 2008-11-15. Retrieved 2008-11-16.

[2] BAllen (2008-10-04). "Alabama Combined Team Statistics". University of Alabama Athletics. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2009-05-21. Retrieved 2008-10-05. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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