Talk:2006–07 in English football

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Dates

Which way round should we be writing the dates on these particular articles? There seems to be inconsistency. Is it day-month-year or month-day-year? Mark272 00:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter, as long as the dates are wiki-linked each user can choose the format he wants dates to be displayed in and wikipedia can handle any reasonable original format Bob Palin 14:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

transfer dates

shouldn't all of the transfer dates be july 1 seeing as noone is technically going anywhere until then?

No, the dates are fine as they are. Gran2 15:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

transfers

Is transfers for this page just for Premiership teams or is it for the Football League as well? arsenalwwerulz 07:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like it has been decided that it's Premier League and Football League Championship only. - fchd 15:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I'm afraid not. Just the more prominent teams, as they usually have the more prominent transfers. Although, in the unlikely event that Alessandro Del Piero decides to join Barnet. That will certainly be on here. Gran2 16:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

League winners etc.

Is it consensus that the only league Champions etc. on the "xxxx-xx in English football" pages are the top four professional divisions? A lot of the non-league club pages have links to the season pages, but there is nothing of relevance to non-league football on the vast majority of them. - fchd 15:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure if you wantd to you could, I certainly see no problem at all. As you said, this is the whole of the English football season, so non-league should go here to. Gran2 16:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split article

"It has been suggested, not by me, that this section be split into a new article titled 2006-07 English football transfer deals."

I thought I would put this on here as the actual user who put the proposed split on the page, didn't add it here. So lets see, I think it is a bad idea. The section serves a better purpose on this page. All the other articles have there transfer section on the season page. Why should this be different? So I say no. Gran2 10:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also say no. I would say no 45 times if it would work more. I think it really was perhaps just the one person who thought that. It really isn't notable enough to have a page dedicated entirely to the transfer dealings. That said, there's an article on the 2007 NFL Draft.--Dreaded Walrus 20:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transfer Section

I'm considering trimming this down a bit. It's already really long, and we still have the January transfers, and retirements to come! Any objections? Gran2 14:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It'll be a tough job, but I'd have to say go for it. Perhaps trim the less notable ones, for example David Sommeil, Alan Mahon, *cough* Vincent van den Berg, and only keep the more notable ones, such as Michael Carrick, Andriy Shevchenko, Michael Ballack, among others. The trouble will be with where the line goes between "more notable" and "less notable". Is there perhaps room for an article just for the transfers? I wouldn't think so, but if there was that would make things a bit easier. --Dreaded Walrus 17:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A separate article would probably solve the problem, but chances are it would be deleted. If it did happen we could just have to have a link to the page on this one. Anyway, the way I see it, transfers that arn't that importrant, ones that recieved hardly any media coverage and so on. I'll look through them and see which can go. Gran2 18:23, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I finally got around to doing this, these are the transfers I think should go, to cut the section down.

8 June 2006

Alan Mahon from Wigan Athletic to Burnley, £200k

30 June 2006

Andy Marshall from Millwall to Coventry City, free
Michael Ricketts from Leeds United to Southend United, free

12 July 2006

Yoann Folly from Southampton to Sheffield Wednesday, Undisclosed
Sam Togwell from Crystal Palace to Barnsley, Undisclosed

13 July 2006

Scott Flinders from Barnsley to Crystal Palace, £1m

14 July 2006

Pascal Zuberbuhler from FC Basel to West Bromwich Albion, free

15 July 2006

Sam Ricketts from Swansea City to Hull City, £300k

19 July 2006

Tony Popović from Crystal Palace to Al Arabi, free

25 July 2006

Brian Priske from Portsmouth to Club Brugge, Undisclosed

27 July 2006

Ian Bennett from Leeds United to Sheffield United, Undisclosed
Fabrice Muamba from Arsenal to Birmingham City, six-month loan

2 August 2006

Matthew Lawrence from Millwall to Crystal Palace, Undisclosed

4 August 2006

Ian Westlake from Ipswich Town to Leeds United, £400k
Dan Harding from Leeds United to Ipswich Town, Swap (part of Westlake deal)
Alex Bruce from Birmingham City to Ipswich Town, free
Bradley Jones from Middlesbrough to Sheffield Wednesday, three-month loan
Tony Warner from Fulham to Leeds United, one-month loan

7 August 2006

Mark Yeates from Tottenham Hotspur to Hull City, season-long loan

8 August 2006

Simon Charlton from Norwich City to Oldham Athletic, free

9 August 2006

Christian Bolaños from Deportivo Saprissa to Charlton Athletic, season-long loan

11 August 2006

Dean Leacock from Fulham to Derby County, £375k
Lee Martin from Manchester United to Rangers, season-long loan
Adam Eckersley from Manchester United to Brøndby, six-month loan

12 August 2006

Stephen Bywater from West Ham United to Derby County, season-long loan

16 August 2006

Chris Makin from Reading to Southampton, free
Albert Jarrett from Brighton & Hove Albion to Watford, free
Phil Bardsley from Manchester United to Rangers, season-long loan

17 August 2006

Jemal Johnson from Blackburn Rovers to Wolverhampton Wanderers, Undisclosed
Darren Potter from Liverpool to Wolverhampton Wanderers, season-long loan

23 August 2006

Kasper Schmeichel from Manchester City to Bury, three-month loan

26 August 2006

André Bikey from Lokomotiv Moscow to Reading, season-long loan

29 August 2006

Andranik Teymourian from Abu Muslem to Bolton Wanderers, free

30 August 2006

Péter Máté from Debreceni to Reading, season-long loan

31 August 2006 - Deadline Day

Rodrigo Defendi from Tottenham Hotspur to AS Roma, season-long loan
Marek Stech from AC Sparta Praha to West Ham United, Undisclosed
Joel Grant from Watford to Aldershot Town, four-month loan
Chris Eagles from Manchester United to NEC Nijmegen, four-month loan
Jon Macken from Crystal Palace to Ipswich Town, four-month loan
Stuart Green from Hull City to Crystal Palace, £75k

8 September 2006

Scott Flinders from Crystal Palace to Gillingham, one-month loan

Are there any others that you think should/shouldn't be on here? Or any other opinions? Gran2 19:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right its been 20 days now, I'm going to remove all of the above transfers, any objections, then state them here. Gran2 16:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Post-Window Contract Signings

Okay, just like the section above, but slightly different, Post-Window Contract Signings, I nominate we change it so that only moves that are permanent are included. I mean all of these loan moves are really insignificant, especially when there only for a few months at the most, I mean:

Tom Craddock, from Middlesbrough to Wrexham, one-month loan

Come on! I haven't even heard of this guy! So, as I've said in the previous section, this page is getting to long so I say delete the following:

14 September 2006

Danny Mills from Manchester City to Hull City, two-month loan

29 September 2006

Lee Hendrie from Aston Villa to Stoke City, two-month loan

5 October 2006

Jermaine Beckford, from Leeds United to Carlisle United, one-month loan

10 October 2006

Alan Wright, from Sheffield United to Leeds United, one-month loan

16 October 2006

Adam Johnson, from Middlesbrough to Leeds United, one-month loan

26 October 2006

Tom Craddock, from Middlesbrough to Wrexham, one-month loan

27 October 2006

Graham Stack, from Reading to Leeds United, three-month loan

9 November 2006

Matt Heath, from Coventry City to Leeds United, two-month loan
Sean Gregan, from Leeds United to Oldham Athletic, two-month loan

16 November 2006

Iain Turner, from Everton to Crystal Palace, one-month loan

17 November 2006

Gábor Király, from Crystal Palace to West Ham United, two-week loan

Any objections? Gran2 16:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, for the most part. I'd only include permanent transfers and loans of three months or more. HornetMike 13:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible improvements for this article

Just chuck in a few ideas.

Split the manager changes from the events section, and make a new section. Possibly in table form.
Add a table chronicling manager/player of the months. Would give the reader an indication of who was on form in a particular month etc (with the reference articles detailing why).
Split the transfers into a sub-page. I don't especially like pages like this, but the list is massive. The benefit of doing so, I suppose, would be that some of the less significant transfers could be included on the sub-pagae whilst they couldn't here.

Thoughts? HornetMike 13:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed on all three counts. I've been thinking about making a subpage for the transfers for a while, but only for the size factor. As for the other two, certainly. Two really good ideas. Gran2 15:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you think we should make the split date-wise for the article? Because we need to decide which managers changes are included in which season. I'd suggest 1st July, as it then - or close to it - that most teams report back for pre-season.

Re: tables, I'd suggest the manager table looked a bit like this:

Name	Club	Date of departure	Replacement	Date of appointment
Kevin Blackwell	Leeds United	20 September 2006	Dennis Wise	24 October 2006

And the player of the month table like this:

Month	Premiership		Championship		League One		League Two
	Manager	Player	Manager	Player	Manager	Player	Manager	Player
August	Alex Ferguson Manchester United^[1]	Ryan Giggs Manchester United^[1]	Dave Jones Cardiff City^[2]	Gareth Bale Southampton^[3]	Colin Calderwood Nottingham Forest^[2]	Leon Constantine Port Vale^[3]	Dennis Wise Swindon Town^[2]	Christian Roberts Swindon Town^[3]
September	Steve Coppell Reading^[4]	Andy Johnson Everton^[1]	Geraint Williams Colchester United^[2]	Michael Chopra Cardiff City^[3]	Brian Laws Scunthorpe United^[2]	Nicky Maynard Crewe Alexandra^[3]	Danny Wilson Hartlepool United^[2]	Mark Stallard Lincoln City^[3]
October	Alex Ferguson Manchester United^[1]	Paul Scholes Manchester United^[1]	Steve Cotterill Burnley^[2]	Diomansy Kamara West Bromwich Albion^[3]	Alan Knill Rotherham United^[2]	Billy Sharp Scunthorpe United^[3]	John Schofield Lincoln City^[2]	Jamie Forrester Lincoln City^[3]
November	Steve Coppell Reading^[5]	Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United^[6]	Billy Davies Derby County^[7]	Darel Russell Stoke City^[3]	John Sheridan Oldham Athletic^[8]	Kris Commons Nottingham Forest^[3]	Richard Money Walsall^[9]	Steve Phillips Bristol Rovers^[3]
December	Sam Allardyce Bolton Wanderers^[1]	Christiano Ronaldo Manchester United^[1]	Steve Bruce Birmingham City^[10]	Jason Koumas West Bromwich Albion^[3]	Simon Grayson Blackpool^[11]	Paul Heffernan Doncaster Rovers^[3]	Paul Ince Macclesfield Town^[12]	Dimitrios Konstantopoulos Hartlepool United^[3]
January	Rafael Benitez Liverpool^[13]	Cesc Fabregas Arsenal^[13]	Billy Davies Derby County^[2]	David Nugent Preston North End^[14]	Sean O'Driscoll Doncaster Rovers^[2]	Enoch Showunmi Bristol City^[15]	Paul Sturrock Swindon Town^[2]	Michael Nelson Hartlepool United^[16]
February	Alex Ferguson Manchester United^[17]	Ryan Giggs Manchester United^[17]	Roy Keane Sunderland^[18]	Stephen Ward Wolverhampton Wanderers^[19]	Nigel Adkins Scunthorpe United^[20]	Joe Murphy Scunthorpe United^[21]	Danny Wilson Hartlepool United^[22]	Wayne Hennessey Stockport County^[23]

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by HornetMike (talk • contribs) 15:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Yep, looks very good, I see no problem. Gran2 16:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I'll start building in here and then transplant it over. Feel free to help if you want! HornetMike 14:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've done the managerial changes, as you can see in the article, most of them just need citations. I've done then in some sort of time order, but I was thinking that maybe ordering them in leagues would be better. So still looking like it does, just with the premiership moves at the top and so on. Gran2 11:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one. Sorry about not progressing with the player of the month stuff, been quite busy of late. I'm not fussed either way re: ordering of managers, so do as you feel! HornetMike 13:10, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any thoughts about adding an extra column into the manager table detailing why they left? Think it would be a good idea or liable to POV (mutual consent etc. is always a bit ambigious). HornetMike 16:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POV in my eyes. Gran2 16:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, every event, manager change and (with the bbc transfer page links at the bottom) transfer is now referenced. I think, although we haven't really ever wanted to, we are going to have to split the transfers into a separate article. Whic could, thinking about it, if we give it a good lead and make sure that any transfers not listed on the BBC pages is references, could have the potential to be a FL. But maybe we should leave it until the January window closes. But I wouldn't mind if it was done soon.

I wouldn't worry about waiting 'til the end of January to do it. Might as well do it now and not have to shift so much information at the end of the month. HornetMike 15:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right I'll get right on it, I'm calling it List of English football transfers 2006-07, seem fine? Gran2 15:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There we go, all done, lead could use some improvement, and the overall looks of the page isnt perfect, but there we go. Gran2 16:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one, looks good. HornetMike 17:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I have developed a liking for tables now, I have decided to restucture the transfers, (I saying this here as our discussion is ongoing and its as easy place as any).

Like this:

Date	Name	Moving from	Moving to	Fee (£)
2 May 2006	Grzegorz Rasiak	Tottenham Hotspur	Southampton	£2m

Gran2 19:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right the player/manager of the month table is now done. I'll add it to the article later as the refs don't have sites or retrieval dates. I'm beginning to see that this page is basically a collection of lists, not that that's a bad thing. Gran² 13:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay its now in the article, any other ideas as to how to maximize this article. Gran² 17:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

Van Der Sar

I see there's been a bit of a disagreement re: Van Der Sar's injury. I have to say I don't think there's anything notable about it. The difference between this injury and the Cech/Cudicini one is that the latter sparked a media feud between Chelsea/Reading and was extraordinairy because of the extent of the injury to both keepers, and the fact it happened to two keepers in one match. I'd remove the Van Der Sar stuff, but in the spirit of fairness probably get rid of the Niemi injury as well - it looked serious but wasn't really in the end. HornetMike 13:38, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree. Injuries happen on a one-off basis all the time. It was the fact that it happened to two Chelsea keepers in the same match that made that one different. - fchd 13:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I stop reverting it because the guy was getting a bit angry, but it isn't notable. Niemi and Ghaly (although Ghaly was unusual) should probably go as well. Gran2 15:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy over Tevez

There should be something in here about this really, it was massive news and the repercussions are still ongoing, it should at least be mentioned 80.195.80.148 (talk) 15:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]