Talk:2005–06 Ahvaz bombings
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neutrality dispute
[edit]who is the neutrality disputed by? and why didnt they write why on the talk page?
NPOV label
[edit]I've removed the "The neutrality of this article is disputed" label. As the comment above mentions, no reason has been given for adding it. Wikipedia:NPOV dispute suggests that
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It would be helpful is you could clearly and exactly explain which part of the article does not seem to have a neutral point of view when you re-add the label. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by D2lraXBlZGlh (talk • contribs) 17:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
Zahedan
[edit]There is no point in linking to Zahedan, which is a thousand miles from Ahwaz. It is totally irrelevant to this article.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 23:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- So what? We're talking about terrorist acts conducted by like-minded people within the territory of Iran. Terrorist attacks in Iran carried out by the Wahabists are terrorist attacks on the people of Iran, that's how they're related. Don't remove the category. --Mardavich 05:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- There have been lots of bombings in Iran. We can't list all of them on this article. Is there an article that lists them? If not, then I suggest we create one and link to it. You point of view may be that Sunnis are behind all the bombings in Iran, but unless there are definite claims that the same group carried out the Zahedan bombings as the Ahwaz bombings, then inclusion of this link is POV. If there is a conspiracy theory about Sunnis, then I suggest a separate article on this and link to individual articles on bombings.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 10:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well add th other ones, don't remove Zahedan, they were both separatist violent acts carried out by Wahabis, in boarder areas of Iran, within the Iranian territory. --Mardavich 03:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- If you can prove that there are allegations that the same group was responsible, then add them in. But this is about Ahwaz, not Balochistan.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 09:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have listed this for a comment by third parties.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 10:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have to prove anything, they're related as they're both recent attacks on civilians in Iran. There is no country named "Balochistan" or "Ahwaz", these are cities of Iran, both attacks were on Iranians, that's how they're related. --Mardavich 10:26, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- The Cinema Rex Bombing was an attack on Iranian civilians - the worst ever - so why do you remove the link to it? I disagree that all attacks in Iran should be included here, only those relevant to Ahwaz and nearby cities, such as the Khomeinist attack on Cinema Rex. Zahedan in Balochistan is hundreds of miles away, near Pakistan. It can only be included if there is a claim of a link to Ahwaz. But let's see what kind of comments come from third parties. I would like your opinion on my suggestion that there should be a separate article on terrorism in Iran, which could include the bombings in Ahwaz and Balochistan.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 10:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- I came across this article - Terrorism in Iran - and linked to it. It details all bomb attacks in Iran, so there is no reason to make a POV link to the Zahedan bombings in Balochistan.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 11:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- The link to the Zahedan bombing should be included. There is no reason to remove it (except for speculations that its inclusion may some how suggests "Sunnis are behind all the bombings in Iran.") We cannot exclude it because some readers may speculate that "Sunnis are behind all the bombings in Iran." For example, take a look at [1]. There are links to terrorist attacks that were no perpetrated by the same terrorist groups (i.e. [2] is included).--Agha Nader 20:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- Why Zahedan in particular? There have been bomb attacks in Tehran and other cities. The inclusion appears to be to promote the POV that Sunnis are terrorists and/or this is a big Al-Qaeda and US conspiracy. In my mind, it is sufficient to have the wikilink to the Terrorism in Iran article, where all the bomb attacks have been discussed, rather than cherry pick certain ones to lead the reader to a certain opinion.
- By the way, it is better to quote from policy, rather than use other Wikipedia articles as examples of policy since they could be wrong.--▓▒░الأهواز ★ Al-Ahwaz░▒▓ 22:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
- I must have missed the policy you quoted, could you restate it? You can add links to any other "bomb attacks in Tehran and other cities" (there have only been a handful.) You make some assertions (i.e. you say that including the link suggests "Sunnis are behind all the bombings in Iran.") Do you have any evidence of this? If you believe that the link has been 'cherry picked' "to lead the reader to a certain opinion," pick your own cherries and include other links to "bomb attacks in Tehran and other cities." Cheers--Agha Nader 02:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- The link to the Zahedan bombing should be included. There is no reason to remove it (except for speculations that its inclusion may some how suggests "Sunnis are behind all the bombings in Iran.") We cannot exclude it because some readers may speculate that "Sunnis are behind all the bombings in Iran." For example, take a look at [1]. There are links to terrorist attacks that were no perpetrated by the same terrorist groups (i.e. [2] is included).--Agha Nader 20:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
RFC
[edit]Does the RFC still need comments? Eiler7 00:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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