Talk:2004 Grand Prix (snooker)

2004 Grand Prix (snooker) has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: July 28, 2018. (Reviewed version).

A fact from 2004 Grand Prix (snooker) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 September 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in the first round of the 2004 Grand Prix snooker tournament, Stephen Maguire was docked a frame for not having his chalk at the start of his match against Shaun Murphy?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/September.

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

Note: To watchlist this to-do list, click on "watch" at top right of this table. Watching the page it is transcluded on won't watch the to-do list.

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– Corrected link. Armbrust ^{Talk to me} _Contribs 18:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2004 Grand Prix (snooker)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Courcelles (talk · contribs) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fair warning, I know nothing about snooker, but this has been sitting around since May, so I'll give it a go. Courcelles (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lead should likely give the title plainly, and then say "known as the 2004 Totesport Grand Prix for sponsorship reasons", assuming Totesport was the naming sponsor?
" and the next event following last season's World Championship, which was won by Ronnie O'Sullivan, now a two-time world champion and the world number one." Unreferenced both that he won the WC and was number one.
"claimed the scalp" is very informal for an encycopaedia.
Same with "whitewashed"
"after which he expressed his surprise he was still in the tournament." Source?
"O'Sullivan overcame a chest infection to beat Joe Swail 5–1, but missed his post-match press conference. " Again. Sorry if they're citedf later, but for these things BLP demands we repeat citations.
"Wattana beat Doherty 5–3 by fluking the final brown from a snooker, before potting blue and pink for the victory." TGhe first half of this sentence makes absolutely no sense to me.
"to get reveng" Again, kind of informal, and no source provided that he was seeking revenge.
More whitewashing in the QF section
"In the best-of-17" -> "best-of-17 frames"
"It was his 21st ranking final and 16th ranking title, which meant he was now third on the list ahead of Williams and Higgins." These statistics are going to need a direct inline citation, per the GA rules.
"The sixth frame had lasted 36 minutes, when O’Sullivan stroked in the pink to a distant balk pocket" We can lose the had. b) are you sure balk is the word you meant? and c) "Stroked in the pink" can be reworded to be less of a sexual innuendo.
What is sourcing the section "Final" -- not the prose one, the table one.

And that's all from me. Courcelles (talk) 15:59, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Courcelles: Have made the necessary edits. With regards to the whitewashed point, it's an term widely used in snooker and I have wikilinked it to the appropriate page.

Good, good. Promoting. Courcelles (talk) 17:30, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]