Talk:2001 Nations Cup (snooker)

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Cue sports Low‑importance

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

Note: To watchlist this to-do list, click on "watch" at top right of this table. Watching the page it is transcluded on won't watch the to-do list.

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Snooker Low‑importance

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2001 Nations Cup (snooker)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 16:03, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
It contains copyright infringements -
It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

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Lede

was a professional non-ranking snooker team tournament - I'm not a big fan of referring to it as a team tournament in this way, we can describe the individual rules later. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was the only non-ranking World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association team competition in the 2000–01 snooker season and the final edition of the Nations Cup - only non-ranking, or only non-ranking team, or only team event?
- Rewritten MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
might be worth saying it was the third and final Nations Cup. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Added MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the lede would benefit from a little bit more about Chamberlain, and that there was a playoff. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Added mention of Chamberlain; there was no playoff. MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The victory was a repeat of Scotland's win over the ROI in the 1996 World Cup", I don't know what this means. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General

No Century breaks? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately not MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
only non-ranking World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association team event is a weird one. Was there any ranking team events this season? It reads weird as if there should be some seperation from being a team event, and being a non-ranking event. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Reworded MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Should it not be "the Hexagon" per WP:THE? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The captalised "The" in "the Hexagon" is part of the article on Wikipedia and elsewhere MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
best-of-7 frames match - best-of-seven. - happens a few times Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Done MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A total of eight teams of three players each divided into two round-robin groups of four competed in the Nations Cup - Maybe The Nations Cup comprised eight national teams consisting of three players each. These teams were split into two round-robin groups of four for better flow. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Done MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Each team was seeded with the defending champions England seeded first and Scotland seeded second - seeded, seeded, seeded. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Done MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Could we link together the summaries into one section, and have group/knockout as subsections? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Done MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:03, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lee Vilenski: Have made changes where appropriate and have replied to all the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Lee Vilenski: Added mention of the play-off in the lede MWright96 (talk) 21:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]