Talk:2000 UEFA Cup final/GA1
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Reviewer: Lemonade51 (talk · contribs) 00:09, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
I'll pick this one up. Just to let you know I will be copyediting the article at some stage.
General
- No dabs or dead links
Route to the final
None of the text is sourced. The other issue I have with this (and article as a whole) is prose needsArsenal section needs citing."The Turkish side won the first leg 4–1 at the Son Moixvenue""Galatasaray won 2–0 at Ali Sami Yen Stadium, with goals provided by Şükür and Capone.", goals from..."At their home ground,theArsenal Stadium, they defeated Nantes with a 3–0 win""before an intensive 3–3 away draw", how about intense?No citation to support this however."They began at home in the first match", played at home
- Comment: I'll add the references as soon as possible. Arbero (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Pre-match
- None of the first two paragraphs are cited
:Comment: Will adress this. Arbero (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
"It was the club's sixth overall European final, having finished as runners-up in the FA Premier League, eighteen points behind champions Manchester United." what exactly does the first part of the sentence have to do with the second?Before the matchcouldcommenced,"He first became an professional referee in 1993", grammar – by using this it suggests his career as a referee ended sometime after and he returned to officiating at a later time. When in fact his refereeing career has been constant.Use en dash when spacing texts, not em dash"...cheerleading girls in pom-pom clothing stepped out on the football pitch to entertain the crowd; a Danish pop singer performed an alternative version of the..." replace semicolon with and
Broadcasting
"The final was made available on television in over 185 countries, with an estimated 500 million watchers," source says the match will be broadcast in 185 countries. How about 'across' 185 countries?
Sources
Why are two citations needed for Man of the match in the infobox?- Weather Underground's publisher isn't The Weather Channel, but The Weather Company
- Ref 7 and 36 use location parameter, but that isn't the case for other newspapers cited. Either remove, or include for all.
- When adding full names of organisations like 'British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)', and 'Cable News Network (CNN)', best to remove the abbreviations.
- Ref 8 uses work parameter for BBC News, Ref 9 however uses publisher. Be consistent.
- Ref 21, The Daily Record → Daily Record, same goes for Ref 34; The Birmingham Post → Birmingham Post
- Ref 22 is The Observer
- Ref 25, 48 and 49 were published on theguardian.com, not The Guardian newspaper
- If you are going to include newspaper publishers like 'Guardian News and Media' and 'Independent Print Limited' (on Ref 22 and 41 respectively) do it for all. Otherwise remove.
- Location parameter not needed for Ref 30, implies the source is published in Istanbul.
- Remove The Free Library and HighBeam Research from the publisher parameter where applicable
- Arsenal F.C. official website → Arsenal Football Club, use publisher parameter instead of work here.
Remove the publisher for Ref 41.- Could you justify this as a WP:RS?
:Comment: I'm not so sure myself about the link to be honest, but from what I read it sounds alright. I'm struggling to find references about the match ball. I don't have the match programme, but perhaps it's inside there? Arbero (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Sheridan Bird, the author of the article is a journalist according to his old website. Anyway, I have made the decision to remove the reference, since I have found better sources. Arbero (talk) 22:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Match
- "However, three minutes into the match", remove 'however'
- "only for it to land in Galatasaray's arms, via Arif Erdem", surely that would be handball? Do you mean it came to Erdem?
- "As a result, Galatasaray were awarded a corner. Erdem took the corner," avoid repetition, just replace bit in bold with 'it'.
- "but failed to trouble the defense" defence
- "Arsenal had more chances", Arsenal created or even fashioned more chances
- "easily read by Popescu and turned away for a corner"
- "The corner was unsuccessful, as Patrick Vieira tried to hit the ball, before it landed for an opportunity for Henry, whose shot went over the goal post" → "The corner was came to nothing; Patrick Vieira tried to hit the ball, before it landed for an opportunity for Henry, whose shot went over the goal post"
- "As one-third of the match had been played" → "A third of the match played..."
- free–kick is hyphenated
- "Overmars a shot on goal, a volley which went over the goal" repetition again
- "One minute later, Galatasaray's first opportunity arrived, when Erdem received a straight ball from a " remove second comma and replace arrived with came
- "which David Seaman managed to keep out with his left hand to a corner" → "which goalkeeper David Seaman managed to keep out" and that should be "for a corner", not to.
- "Eventually, Galatasaray grew more into the game as Erdem exchanged passes with Hakan Şükür" rremove eventually and replace bold bit with minute
- "Overmars would make another run into the area" → "Overmars then made another run into the area"
- "Arsenal began to round up more chances" change word
- "With only two minutes of the first half remaining, Galatasaray nearly took the lead, when Şükür found Erdem, who was not offside, however, the shot went just wide", too many clauses here. Rewrite
- "During the third minute,
PatrickVieira picked Ray Parlour"
- Comment: Will try and do all above after I have cleaned up other sections first.
Aftermath
- "As the Arsenal players were seen consoling each other", no source for this sentence Lemonade51 (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: May I use images from Getty Images or Google as a reference? Arbero (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Getty Images is fine. Lemonade51 (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Right I've copyedited the rest of the match summary, the riots and post-match reaction. All that remains is the picture -- something like this would be fine. Everything's in order otherwise. Lemonade51 (talk) 14:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: I assume the article is close to passing the Good Article criteria then? Unless if there is anything else that bothers you? Arbero (talk) 17:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Happy with the changes and shall pass. Also means a GA topic on Arsenal's 1999–2000 season is now complete and can be nominated if need be. :) Lemonade51 (talk) 18:35, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
