Talk:1st South Carolina Rifle Regiment

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Removing "battles not included" section

I've removed a lengthy section from the middle of this article entitled "battles not included," which lists various engagements at which this regiment may have been present, but doesn't appear in reliable sources. Per WP:RS if we don't have a reliable source for it, it shouldn't be in Wikipedia. I append the section in question, in case somebody wants to dig out some RSes to reinstate one or more of these battles. Chuntuk (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The following actions fall into two categories: they are mentioned in various on-line sources, but are not yet sufficiently documented for inclusion in the template at right; or they are included, under a different name...

Glendale (VA - 30 June 1862)

listed here as Frayser's Farm.

Second Bull Run (VA - 28-30 Aug. 1862)

Usually called Second Manassas by Confederate sources.

Chantilly (VA - 1 Sept. 1862)

Usually called Ox Hill by Confederate sources.

Antietam (MD - 17 Sept. 1862)

Usually called Sharpsburg by Confederate sources.

Franklin's Crossing (VA - 5 June 1863)

also called the Deep Run Battle, involved A. P. Hill's Corps, possibly including Orr's Rifles.

Falling Waters (MD - 14 July 1863)

Apparently this action occurred during the retreat from Gettysburg, part of the Battle of Williamsport. Unfortunately, Wikipedia's article does not mention Orr's Rifles, nor the brigade, division, or corps to which it was subordinate.
CAVEAT Do not confuse this with the battle of the same name that took place on 2 July 1861.

Second Deep Bottom (VA - 14-20 Aug. 1864)

Usually called Fussell's Mill by Confederate sources.

First Squirrel Level Road (VA - 30 Sept. 1864)

This seems to be part of the Peebles' Farm which is also known as Poplar Springs Church. Could Jones Farm (VA - 30 Sept. 1864) and/or First Pegram's Farm (VA - 1 Oct. 1864) also be parts of this same battle?

Five Forks (VA - 1 April 1865)

As with Falling Waters the Wikipedia article makes no mention of Orr's Rifles involvement in action to the west. Anyway, A.P. Hill was still holding the line at Petersburg when the breakthrough occurred on 2 April.

Appomattox Court House (VA - 9 April 1865)

Orr's Rifles was surrendered at that locale, but probably did not take part in this battle, which was fought primarily by the Second Corps.

Useful source

To be mined when I (or you) have time.

Caldwell, J. F. J. (1866). The history of a brigade of South Carolinians, known first as 'Gregg's', and subsequently as 'McGowan's brigade'. Philadelphia: King & Baird.
http://sites.rootsweb.com/~scwbts/brigade.htm -- probably not a reliable source in itself, but useful for refs
https://civilwartalk.com/threads/1st-south-carolina-rifles-orrs-rifles.133518/ -- ditto
http://batsonsm.tripod.com/b/reg1o.html -- ditto

Chuntuk (talk) 15:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]