Talk:1991 European Super Cup

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Summary

My summary of this match is based largely on this YouTube video. However, I can't cite it in the article as YouTube isn't typically considered a reliable source. If anyone has a better source to support what can be plainly seen in the video, please add it. – Pee Jay 14:10, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:1991 European Super Cup/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: HawkAussie (talk · contribs) 02:57, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will be happy to review this article. HawkAussie (talk) 02:57, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

Manchester United won the match 1–0. - This feels out of place because you have already mentioned that in the second paragraph.

Good point, removed. Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

of 22,110, Manchester United's lowest home attendance of the season. - Do we need to know that it was the lowest for their season especially if it's trivial.

Removed from lead. Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background

...favourites Barcelona by winning 2–1... - Drop "by winning"

Removed. Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

...Rotterdam, the Netherlands. - Drop "the"

Removed. Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was the first Super Cup appearance for either side;... - Shouldn't be this at the start of paragraph instead of the end.

I don't necessarily see why? Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also maybe link "aggregate" for people who might not know.

Linked. Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

...the aircraft on which the Manchester United team were travelling home... - Maybe you could slighty reword it here.

It would help if you could explain why? Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-match

Reading that section, I feel like their is a slight bias towards Manchester United as we don't know who Red Star Belgrade was missing from their lineup for this match.

Granted, but I simply haven't been able to find that information for Belgrade, and it seems silly to remove information we do know, just because we don't know something else. Note that the neutrality criteria states "it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each." I am not convinced that including factual information about one team and not the other is considered as representing a viewpoint. GA doesn't require comprehensiveness, only that the article "addresses the main aspects of the topic". Harrias ^talk 07:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Match

...captain Steve Bruce stepped up to take the penalty kick, which he placed to the right of Red Star goalkeeper Zvonko Milojević; however, Milojević guessed... - A bit over-detailed as you could just say that his penalty shot was blocked by Zvonko Milojević or something along those lines without going into detail

Trimmed this down, but left some detail. Harrias ^talk 20:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Manchester United played better after the goal, and had further chances... - Probably drop the "played better after the goal, and" as it sort of sounds like a bit of WP:WEASEL, so instead do something like "Manchester United had further chances..."

Attributed this. Harrias ^talk 20:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

...they lost the tie in 1999, 2008 and 2017 - Slighty modify this sentence to "losing the 1999, 2008 and 2017 Supercups" or something similiar.

Tweaked, how is it now? Harrias ^talk 20:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Only reference 4 has an connection issue, other than that the rest is fine.

Odd, it works fine for me. Harrias ^talk 20:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments

Going through the comments that you have posted:

3rd background: I think for me, I usually try and put that last sentence in the first paragraph to the top as a way to introduce that section.
5th background: Tried to work out if that sentence made sense and on a second readthrough it actually does so ignore that comment
Pre-match: True on that part and it's to try and find specific resources for the Yugoslav part and in part it's probably a good thing.

Other than those, I think it's close to be a GA article. HawkAussie (talk) 13:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HawkAussie: Made a few more changes, and responded to your points, let me know what you think. Harrias ^talk 20:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: Looking at the modifications and I think it's complete the article. Good job and have an GA badge on me. HawkAussie (talk) 01:17, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.