Talk:1981 UEFA Cup final/GA1

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Reviewer: Harrias (talk · contribs) 12:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this dreckly. Harrias ^talk 12:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

It is mentioned that the UEFA Cup is "Europe's secondary cup competition", but this isn't referenced, or included in the body.

Route to the final

"as a result of finishing third the previous season" Reading this, I would assume Ipswich were third in last season's UEFA Cup.
Ipswich Town and AZ need linking on their first mention in the body.
"..with the English club winning.." Avoid noun plus -ing.
"..against Greek team Aris Salonika." "..against the Greek team.."?
"The first leg, at Portman Road, .." Clarify that Portman Road is their home ground.
Link penalties.
Link John Wark on first use in the body.
"..before Gates pulled.." Expand and link Gates.
"..saw Wark on target.." Not sure that is encyclopaedic language.
"A 3–0 home win saw Wark on target twice more, who was substituted.." I'm not sure "who" works here, the grammar jars for me.
Link Kevin Beattie, also Paul Cooper.
Expand and link Thijssen and Mariner.
"Wark once again found the net, scoring a hat-trick with goals.." Needs a comma after "hat-trick".
Link Alan Brazil, and Mick Mills, and trim Mariner.
"..allowed Robson to withdraw.." Expand, link, and explain who Robson is.
Expand and link Mühren.
"..faced French team AS Saint-Étienne.." Again, "..the French team.."?
"Dutch player Johnny Rep.." "The Dutch player.."
Link "brace".
Trim Arnold Mühren and John Wark.
"has been described as one of the greatest performances in Ipswich's history" Who by?
"..with Robson noting.." Noun plus -ing again.
"..met German side 1. FC Köln. Again, "..the German side.."?
"..Wark scoring..", "..with Butcher heading.." Noun plus -ing again.

Lunch time, more to follow. Harrias ^talk 12:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers so far, all addressed. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"..to the Dutch, .." I think this should be "to the Dutch team".
"..with AZ winning.." Noun plus -ing.
"Three months later, AZ faced quarter-final opponents Lokeren of Belgium.." "faced their quarter-final opponents"?

First leg

Trim Eric Gates.
No need for "however".
"..had been recently been.." Too many beens.
Link handball. And maybe rephrase to "..following a handball by Hovenkamp."
Trim Paul Mariner and Alan Brazil.
What's the deal with substitutes? The only ones listed are those used; are the others not known? (This also applies to the second leg.)
Good question. I'll take another look at that. I suspect they're not listed anywhere reliable, just those that were used would have been recorded in the press. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's a shame. I can't see anything on a quick look around either. No worries. Harrias ^talk 15:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Second leg

Any detail we can include on the fact that the match was played at the Olympic Stadium, rather than AZ's home ground?
Not that I can find. I assume it was because it had a much bigger capacity but that's speculation. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Ipswich took 6,000 travelling fans to the game." Note the overall attendance here too for comparison.
Trim Johnny Metgod.
Link unmarked.

Post-match

Consider putting the note inline, I think it is pertinent enough to include.
"Bobby Robson left the club.." Trim Bobby Robson, and clarify the club.
"AZ '67 went on to reach the semi-final of the 2004–05 UEFA Cup;[47] Ipswich made it to the third round in the 2001–02 UEFA Cup." Are they the team's only subsequent performances, or their best ones?
I think the {{clear}} template would work better in the Notes section: there would be less whitespace.

References

All looks good, no evidence of copyvio or close para-phrasing.

Nice neat and tidy article. I won't bother to put it on hold, as you're likely to deal with these issues pdq anyway. Harrias ^talk 14:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias all done and a couple of replies above. Sadly, removing the note has removed the notes section and thus the clear template can't go in there. I really want to retain the image though. Any thoughts? Anything else needed? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the template into the See also section for a minor improvement, but short of expanding the Post-match section, I don't think there's much else that can be done. Harrias ^talk 15:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]