Talk:1979 Salvadoran coup d'état

B class review

I can see that this article might be challenged as "non-neutral". However, I have read enough about the heavy-handed efforts of the CIA in Central America to suspect this article is close to the truth. Djmaschek (talk) 04:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vincent60030 (talk) 09:26, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état was the event that began the Salvadoran Civil War?
  • ALT1:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état was the incident that began the Salvadoran Civil War?
  • ALT2:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état was the crisis that began the Salvadoran Civil War?
  • ALT3:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état was the political crisis that began the Salvadoran Civil War?
  • ALT4:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état was the political shift that began the Salvadoran Civil War?
  • ALT5:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état began the Salvadoran Civil War?
  • ALT6:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état ended nearly 50 years of total military rule in El Salvador?
  • ALT7:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état helped pave the way for the full democratization of El Salvador?
  • ALT8:... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état helped lead the way for the full democratization of El Salvador?

• Comment: This is my 1st DYK nomination.

Improved to Good Article status by Pizzaking13 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Although it passed GA, the articles has questionable sources used: http://rulers.org/rule.html#el_salvador UN documents that need to be attributed and published on a random website that may not have permission to host them http://www.derechos.org/nizkor/salvador/informes/truth.html
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - The hooks would be much more hooky if rewritten in the active voice, ie. "... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état set off the Salvadoran Civil War?" However, since it's not unusual for coups to lead to civil war, a much more interesting hook could be devised.

QPQ: None required.

Overall: (t · c) buidhe 20:55, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Changed the source that was brought into question with an archived government source. Suggested 4 more hooks. Pizzaking13 (talk) 23:31, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. The article still cites a Wordpress blog[1] I think ALT 6 is best if the sourcing issues can be sorted (t · c) buidhe 08:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

The issue has been sorted. Pizzaking13 (talk) 3:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

• Buidhe's issues have been fixed. Approving ALT6. SL93 (talk) 22:27, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but I'm having trouble finding the hook fact in the article. Could you point it out to me? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah I based it off the reading of "The group was named after Augustín Farabundo Martí Rodríguez, the leader of the Communist Party during an uprising in 1932 which resulted in the massacre of 10,000 to 40,000 peasants under the rule of Maximiliano Hernández Martínez, who himself had a far-right death squad was named after him". Mid-1932, from the available online source, is when there was total military rule because of the massacre of 10,000 to 40,000 peasants (mentioned in the article). I was about ready to make it clearer aftter your comment, but the article La Matanza states that it was "December 1931". The hook is correct because it says nearly 50 years, but I guess there needs to be clarification on 1931 or 1932. SL93 (talk) 22:39, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
• Yoninah Should there be a time limit placed on fixing the issue? The nominator last edited on October 14. SL93 (talk) 18:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

• @SL93: yes, this nomination has been hanging around more than a month, but it's a first-time nominator and so far none of the 8 (!) hook suggestions are tenable. I guess I'd give it until the end of the this week to get a better hook. Do you want to suggest something else? Yoninah (talk) 18:48, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: I'm having trouble thinking of a new hook. I think the end of the week is good. SL93 (talk) 18:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

• @SL93: OK, I'm leaving one last notice on the nominator's talk page. Yoninah (talk) 18:51, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

ALT9: ... that the 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état overthrew President Carlos Humberto Romero? Source: diario1.com and US Library of Congress If you have studied this at school, such a simple statement is nothing new, perhaps - but most of us in the world know little about it, so it's interesting. Storye book (talk) 12:46, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

• Fine, thanks. ALT9 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Buidhe. ALT9 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:30, 20 October 2020 (UTC)