Talk:1977 Atlantic hurricane season/GA1

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 19:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• With the first sentence, it's misleading what a "named storm" is, since 1965 technically only has 5

• I'm gonna was "tropical storm" instead. It would be a true statement either way.--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "June 1, 1977, and lasted until November 30, 1977" - don't think you need years for both

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "The first tropical depression of the season developed 2 days later, on June 3, in the western Caribbean Sea. " - this is lacking context, "later" from what? Just say "developed two days after the start of the season on June 3..." And I'd say "two"

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• But the first storm formed on June 13th, per the source you provided. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• Is Anita the latest formation of the first named storm? Any chance you could research that more? And, source for that quote in lede?

• Yes, Anita was the latest. I'm gonna remove that quote since it will seem reduntant with adding that Anita was the latest formation of the first named storm.--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Category 5 hurricane" - link/explain here pl0x

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Still think you should add SSHS there. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Fixed again :P --12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• " though the damage toll remains unknown" - I wouldn't include this in the lede.

• Removed--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "In addition to Anita, another notable tropical cyclone of this season was Hurricane Babe." - Babe wasn't that notable.

• Why not? It was notable enough to get an article :P --12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• I suppose :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "$10 million (1977 USD) in damage" - maybe add a note that all damage totals are in 1977 USD?

• Added--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "it spawned a total of 14 tornadoes"

• "it spawned of 14 tornadoes?" :P --12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• ...yes :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• "which led to 13 deaths and $50 million in damage. Overall, the tropical cyclones of the season collectively caused 11 fatalities and at least $13 million in damage." - inconsistency

• I'm not including that in the season damage and death toll because it was the remnants of TD 9.--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, then you should say "excluding the depression..." or something, to clarify you're not including TD 9. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Activity began 12 days later with the formation of a tropical depression on Jun3 13." - wha? And the lede says June 3...?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Again, is it June 13 or 3? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry about that. It was June 13.--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• " it was a below average season because only 6 of them strengthened into a tropical storm" - since it's multiple, it should be "into tropical storms" at the end

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• What is "major hurricane status"?

• I can't believe you don't know :P --12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "The amount of activity is attributed" - since it wasn't really active, I'd say "The inactivity". Also, should be "was"

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Tropical cyclogenesis in the 1977 Atlantic hurricane season began with the development of a tropical depression on June 13" - you mentioned that a paragraph earlier

• Shouldn't I mention it again if I writing a chronological summary of the season?--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "As September is the climatological peak of hurricane season, it was the most active month" - could be clearer.

• How so?--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "The season's activity was reflected with a cumulative accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) rating of 25, which was the lowest ACE value since 1925" - false. 1946 had 22.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Although intensification briefly slowed, rapid deepening occurred from September 1 to September 2. Early on September 2, Anita peaked as a Category 5 hurricane with winds of 175 mph (280 km/h)" - these could be merged ("September 1 to the following day, when Anita peaked...")

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Above normal tides in Texas resulted in the closure of numerous coastal highways" - can you avoid "resulted in the closure"? Nominalizations are bad, m'kay

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Precipitation from the storm peaked at 15.2 inches (390 mm) at Soto la Marina" - not quite true, we don't know what the peak was. Also, link city?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• Careful when you say "a tropical wave developed into..." - a tropical wave is a trough, and those alone don't develop into TC's. They can produce a low along them, so they can spawn a tropical cyclone, but they don't develop into a TC, per sé. Make sure you fix that for Anita and Babe.
• "It strengthened and gradually acquired tropical characteristics and was reclassified as Tropical Storm Babe late on September 4." - too many "and"'s

• There's only 2.--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "A convective cloud mass with a spiral band of gale-force winds northeast of Hurricane Babe moved away from the system." - weird start. Moved away from what system?

• Hurricane Babe--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "However, strong wind shear" - bad way to start a paragraph

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "to weakened" - you grammared weirded

• Fixeded :P --12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• I would split Clara's info to a MH paragraph and an impact paragraph. Ditto with Evelyn
• "promoting an upgraded of the depression" - huh?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• Any damage from Evelyn or Frieda?

• That's it for both storms.--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "the remnants of cold front" -missing something?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• Try getting a track map for "Tropical Depression Nine"
• Any more info about TD 9? Disaster declaration? Deaths? Anything from NCDC? Google news?
• "Later in June, a second tropical depression formed in the west-central Gulf of Mexico on June 13." - a second?

• Nope, an hour :P --12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Initial predictions from the National Hurricane Center indicated it could possibly before a tropical storm" - huh?

• Removed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• I'm confused. Were some TD's named and some weren't?

• Yes--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "It briefly headed east-southeastward, before turning by October 3. On the following day, the depression curved northwestward." - could be merged

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Because new lists containing male names began in 1979 season, none of these have appeared on a list since, except for Ida." - and Grace?

• "Grace? She passed away 30 years ago." :P Fixed--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

That's it for now. Generally decent, shouldn't be too hard to fix. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)