Talk:1975 San Diego Chargers season/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Harper J. Cole (talk · contribs) 00:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 18:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Many copy fixes, mostly commas. I know this article has sat a very long time, so fresh eyes might see even more. Also catch the reference issue at 76. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:15, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@Harper J. Cole How are we coming along on this? I see a lot of changes made, but I'm not sure what's remaining. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 13:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I've been a bit short of time but should be able to finish it today. Harper J. Cole (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie I think I've gone through these now. The odd-looking citations in the lead section were leftovers from before I started work on the article. I removed two of them, and kept the NYT citation after finding that article online. I've also reworked the lead citations into the main article. With regard to citation 72, page A-12 was just a box score, repeating the data already found in the pro-football-reference citation. Harper J. Cole (talk) 22:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

Copy changes

Lead

• By the beginning of December, the prospect of the first winless and tieless season since World War II loomed, and led WP:CINS right from the jump. One subject: "prospect". Drop the comma after "loomed".
• Hyphenate "first-team" as an adjective to "All-Pro" (recurs later)
• Other selections included defensive backs Mike Williams and Mike Fuller, and tackle Billy Shields, Remove comma after Fuller so the clause after applies to all of them.
• MOS:LEADCITE — are any of the items in the lead mentioned elsewhere and therefore not needing citations in the lead section?

Offseason

• Prothro praised Dean's speed and intensity, and indicated that he would be switched to linebacker Remove comma after "intensity"
• 3rd-round pick Fuller had some success as a kick returner in his rookie season, and also saw action as a strong safety.
  • Because the ordinal starts the sentence, much like a number, it should be spelled out: Third-round pick Fuller... This recurs elsewhere in this section.
  • CINS remove comma.
• 6 foot 8 inch Use a convert template for hyphenated formatting and as a unit. This sentence also has a comma to drop.
• became the team's long snapper during a six-year career, and served as the starting center in 1977 CINS
• Carl Mauck had started 54 games at center out of a possible 56 during four seasons in San Diego, but was traded to the Oilers for two other players. CINS
• On defense, fourth-year linebacker Tom Graham was acquired, and started 28 games over the next three seasons. Drop comma after "acquired"

Preseason

• Fouts and rookie quarterback Neal Jeffrey combined for 253 passing yards, while throwing one touchdown pass each to newly signed tight end Curran and veteran wide receiver Gary Garrison. You can drop the comma or "while". I'd actually keep the comma: ...passing yards, throwing...
• with 29 remaining 29 seconds, presumably?
• Encouragement: Caption the preseason and regular season summary tables for accessibility reasons. You can also move the preseason citation into the table caption, which will look cleaner. Add scopes to the column and row headers.

Regular season

• Fouts threw only two touchdowns against ten interceptions, but was still the top Charger by passer rating with 59.3 CinS
• Hyphenate "second-worst", "league-high" as adjectives—and "next-best" later too
• 12.9% of pass attempt should be "attempts"
• "Ten-year" instead of "10-year" because oit starts a sentence
• caught only 19 passes all year, but led the team with three receiving touchdowns CINS
• The running game was little-used (the third fewest carries in the league), and hampered CINS
• The lead section and body contradict on how many games Woods played (four or five)
• Virgil Carter started the game, but could generate only three first downs CINS
• Carter was then pulled from the game, and did not play for the Chargers again. CINS
• San Diego were more competitive in their second game, but still lost by a comfortable margin CINS
• A 14-yard sack pushed them back and they were forced to punt again. This sentence needs a CINS comma after "back".
• The Week 3 box contains a typo referring to one of my GA pipeline pages: KBHK (not KHBK). If you couldn't figure out where this was supposed to link to, now you know!
  • Presumably, KRON passed on this game to carry baseball postseason coverage, which was not unheard of in that day.
• Oakland's offense struggled as well, but did manage two field goal attempts by George Blanda in the 2nd quarter CINS
• Fouts ran for 5 yards on first down, but was sacked on the next two plays CINS
• 36 yard out
• Kansas 25 missing City
• Woods rushed 19 times for 72 yards and caught 2 passes for 14 more, but also picked up an knee ligament injury CINS
• who had rushed for 100 yards or more on eight occasions in a 17-game career prior to it, but never did so again CINS
• San Diego trailed for over 59 minutes as they were shut out for the third time in six weeks, and for the second time by the Raiders. CINS
• Punter Partee then struggled to field a low snap, and was brought down CINS
• Young gained 14 yards on a draw to reach Giants territory, then broke away over right tackle
  • Arguably CINS
  • over the right tackle
• converted two third downs with passes, and another with a 17-yard scramble up the middle Unneeded non-CinS comma
• They picked up one first down, but were soon forced to punt themselves. CinS
• Three sustained drives by New England then resulted in 13 unanswered points, and a 23–6 lead at halftime. CinS
• Probably should be "capitalize" to match other AmEng use in these articles.
• Fouts found Garrison with a 35-yard completion on the next play, and converted a 4th and 12 CinS
• Mike Williams intercepted a pass at his own 26, and managed a 40-yard return before being tackled. CinS
• Hyphenate "third-down" in "third-down conversions"
• "two-play drive" reads better than "2-play drive" in that sentence
• The Chargers led at halftime despite managing only 25 yards, and failing to register a single first down in six possessions (Denver had 155 yards and 12 first downs). CinS
• it was the Chargers' first of the game, and occurred on their ninth possession CinS
• Charger' fifth interception
• Wondering if "pitch invasion" should be "field invasion" given AmEng
• Fouts having been forced out of the game due to a concussion, Freitas came in on the next drive, passing Consider reordering: Freitas came in on the next drive, Fouts having been forced out of the game due to a concussion, passing
• San Diego attempted only 16 passes, but rushed 48 times CinS

Sourcing and spot checks

• 7: Checks out for info on the three players and SD spending seven picks on defensive players. Y
• 11: Kelcher added to team HoF. Y
• 19: Stats check out for Rickey Young. Y
• 31: PFR shows Flanagan starting 14 of 14 games in the 1975 season for SD. Y
• 44: Cannot verify offline source. Instead checked [43] on Carter coming from the WFL and joining in August. Y
• 48: Third after Charle Young and Rich Caster looking only at TEs. Y
• 72: Details check out. This ref is missing a clipping of page A-12. Encouragement: mark agency as "Associated Press" for AP items (or UPI for UPI items, like 76) with "work" for the actual newspaper. Y
• 76: I don't see this in there. Is it in a game recap? I see he had three INTs, but not more than any offensive player.

Some encouragements:

• List full headlines for articles instead of clipping just the relevant part, e.g. https://newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-cid-edwards-o/84432064/ has a title of "Cowboys' White 'another Huff'".
• I'm not quite sure how you're getting the back Washington Post, New York Times, etc., that aren't linked (or using citation templates, for that matter). If it's ProQuest, you can add a specific reference to the ProQuest record for that item. As a sample, I did this for the Washington Post references in WDCW.

I am going to make a note to you that is probably of specific interest to your Chargers articles. Though not offered through TWL, GenealogyBank is a subscription newspaper service which has some of the same papers and many different ones. This includes, as of March (yes, after this GAN was opened), the full runs of the San Diego Union and Evening Tribune, as well as the Denver Post (for those pesky Broncos-related items). GBank is a little clunky though not nearly to the level of NewspaperArchive

Images

The two images, both card crops from non-renewed 1978–89 items without a copyright notice, are acceptable. Encouragement: add alt text that consists of "Headshot of (name)".

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