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Good article1973 DeKalb–Peachtree Airport Learjet crash has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 18, 2011Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 9, 2011.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that, in 1973, a Learjet 24 crashed shortly after take-off from DeKalb-Peachtree Airport after striking birds which likely came from a landfill site adjacent to the runway?

Notability

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Why is this notable? Also, you are relying on essentially one source, a primary source for this article. This seems to not meet the WP:GNG. --Admrboltz (talk) 20:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article, I believe, meets the WP:GNG and WP:AIRCRASH. NTSB reports source essentially all articles on aircraft accidents within the United States. Therefore, I have removed the tags. wackywace 21:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:AIRCRASH#Aircraft articles, the article is not regarding an airliner, and is over 12,500 lbs Gross, so it has to pass all three of the bullet points in the bottom section. The crash passes the first two, but the crash did not "...[result] in changes to procedures, regulations or issuance of an Airworthiness Directives (or the equivalent to an AD in the case of non-certified aircraft)." The NTSB made suggestions, and the FAA put out suggestions, but they did not change regulations or add a AD to the Lear 24. --Admrboltz (talk) 21:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have passed the article as GA in accordance with WP:WIAGA. To forestall any possible issues, the GA criteria (and process) do not consider the notability of the subject, which is a separate matter. As such, the GA-status should not be referenced for any discussion on the subject's notability within the project scope. Jappalang (talk) 00:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would point out that WP:AIRCRASH is an essay, which does not have to be followed, although generally it will be. As such, there may be occasions when an article does not need to meet all the criteria mentioned. Mjroots (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
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Reviewer: Jappalang (talk) 03:30, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    Just one clarification needed below
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    On hold pending resolutions

Accident

  • "... the aircraft climbed through a height of between 250 feet (76 m) and 300 feet (91 m) ..."
    "... the aircraft climbed 250 feet (76 m) to 300 feet (91 m) ..." or "... the aircraft climbed to a height of between 250 feet (76 m) and 300 feet (91 m) ..."?

-- Jappalang (talk) 03:30, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Seems strange to promote an article to GA while it has a proposed deletion tag on it! MilborneOne (talk) 16:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to airport

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I think this may be merged to the airport in lieu of deletion, since crashes are something that should be documented in airport articles, as significant events in the history of an airport. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 06:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • There's no reason the incident shouldn't be mentioned in the airport article, and that can be easily added in an Accidents section. However, this article is far to large for a straight merge. If this article is deleted by an AFD, then obviously some relevent information would be moved to the airport article, but probably no more that should already be there now. - BilCat (talk) 06:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merge. I believe that notability has been established and the merge would unbalance the airport article. Therefore, the two should stay separate. Mjroots (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no way a good article would be merged so I'm removing the merger thing. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:52, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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