Talk:1965 British European Airways Vickers Vanguard crash

On 14 December 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from British European Airways Flight 706 (1965) to 1965 British European Airways Vickers Vanguard crash. The result of the discussion was moved.

Source on Flight Number

None of the provided sources of this article, including the report, seem to mention the flight number (in fact one states the call sign was "Echo Echo"[1]), so I am curious as to why User:Global Donald named it Flight 706 when they created it this August.

This might be delving into WP:OR, but looking through BEA flight schedules online[2], the flight scheduled leaving Edinburgh for London at 23:15 (two minutes before this flight left) was Flight 5427 in both 1964[3] and 1967[4]. Presumably this would've been the same in between, including in 1965.

Whether or not that's right, if there is no source for Flight 706 predating this article, this article at the very least should be renamed 1965 British European Airways Vickers Vanguard crash or similar. ThatFlyingSquid (talk) 15:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this is wrong and confusing. Flight BE706 was the BEA Vanguard crash in Belgium with a tailplane failure due to corrosion. That one was registered G-APEC and the Heathrow one was G-APEE

NB In those days BEA used the aircraft last two digits as the callsign - eg "Beeline Echo Charlie", not the flight number as almost all airlines do now. Possel47 (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to 1965 British European Airways Vickers Vanguard crash with alternate title per limited consensus. (non-admin closure) cyberdog958^Talk 15:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

British European Airways Flight 706 (1965) → British European Airways Flight 5427 – As I brought up a few months ago on this talk page, there are no sources for this flight having also been called Flight 706, while BEA flight schedules both before and after the accident have a Vanguard flight from Edinburgh to London departing at 23:15 (this flight left at 23:17) listed as Flight 5427. If this is not considered reliable enough, this article should at least be moved to 1965 British European Airways Vickers Vanguard crash unless there is a source predating the creation of this article referring to the accident as Flight 706. ThatFlyingSquid (talk) 00:08, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to 1965 British European Airways Vickers Vanguard crash – No sources use either Flight 706 or Flight 5427. Whilst the flight number may have been 5427 (based on the flight schedules), I wouldn't consider that reliable enough. (Basically WP:OR.) Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.