Talk:1964 Illinois House of Representatives election

GA Review

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Reviewer: Theleekycauldron (talk · contribs) 08:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! I'll be taking this up :) I can't offer a firm timeline as to when to expect comments, so feel free to request a new reviewer at any time. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Prose

• Democrat Otto Kerner Jr.. one period only, unfortunately :)
  • Fixed. Elli (talk | contribs) 09:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
• I would restructure the first paragraph of Background to focus on the redistricting requirement first and the partisan split that made it impossible second.
  • The section has been rewritten and very much expanded since then. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:38, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
• Illinois Supreme Court → the Supreme Court of Illinois
  • Fixed. Elli (talk | contribs) 09:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
• Democrats nominated Adlai Stevenson III, the son of Adlai Stevenson II, a popular former governor in the state, and John A. Kennedy, a businessman who had a similar name but no relation to president John F. Kennedy, who had been murdered the previous year. awko taco
  • Tried to make this a bit less awkward, but not sure if I've succeeded. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:37, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
• Given the unique electoral system allowing voters to vote for candidates of both parties, some newspapers made bipartisan endorsements of candidates. can't really assign reason based on primary sources, but maybe this works in table format?
  • I've added secondary sourcing here. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
• duplink to redir Illinois Supreme Court
  • Unlinked the second link here. Elli (talk | contribs) 09:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
• significant shake-up the balance of power missed a word there
  • Fixed. Elli (talk | contribs) 09:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
• Is the State Senate redistricting question relevant?
  • Think so; most sources discussing the court cases in depth mention them both. I've expanded on this to better explain the situation. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:33, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
• Probably still specify Illinois Secretary of State
• Possibly extend the list of ten commissioners into two-columns of bullet points?
• However, the Supreme Court rejected this argument, stating that an at-large election would only have been required if the legislature had failed to redistrict the Senate in 1956 liiittle too closely paraphrased
  • Rephrased this. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing

• It'd probably be better to rework the text to not have to rely on Chamberlain as a source.
  • I've replaced it for the sentence where it's the only source. As for the other two places it's cited, the first is to give someone a reference to the relevant part of the constitution (as a useful primary source), and the second is to determine the incumbency status of candidates. I don't see either use as problematic. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:41, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
• did not appoint former governor Stratton, the architect of this redistricting process I'd probably call that OR given the source.
  • I've rewritten this and expanded it to be more in line with the source. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:34, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
• Two lawsuits were decided by the Supreme Court on January 4, 1964 don't see in source
  • Ah, the January 4th date is from the NYT reference. The source cited, though, does explain that it's two lawsuits. I've added the NYT source to the first sentence as well. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
• Page numbers on Green 1987?
  • Added. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Breadth questions

• Why did Kerner deem the legislature's proposed maps unfair?
  • Think this is adequately explained now. Elli (talk | contribs) 10:05, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
• Who was on the special commission? What did they try?
  • Listed the members and explained the intractable dispute. Elli (talk | contribs) 10:05, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
• How did the case get to the Supreme Court of Illinois?
  • Think I've explained this about as well as the sources can support. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
• Who chooses/is the tie-breaker under the new rules for the redistricting commission?
  • I've expanded on this. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
• Probably worth mentioning that the Democrats on the commission went down to 22 by the end?
  • Done. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:37, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
• More rigorous endorsements section? Not sure how this'd go...

Overall

@Elli: Fantastic job on the expansion! Prose and breadth look great; I'm going to make some sourcing spot-checks and hopefully I can get this done today. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:44, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Elli: Awesome, thank you so much :) Elli (talk | contribs) 23:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Elli: you won't believe this, but that's... all from me? I've made a bunch of fixes in-article and left some other stuff here. Once it's straightened out, you're good to go :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:49, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Great :) I'll work on addressing your remaining feedback today. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: can you take a look now? I've addressed almost everything here. As for the things that I haven't: I don't have much of an opinion on whether the members of the commission should be in prose or as a list, but I don't know how best to present them as a list, so I've left them as prose. Also not sure what a more rigorous endorsements section would look like as listing them like we do on most election pages would be a huge mess. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

and we are... done! very nice job :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 20:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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Sample ballot in the 1964 Illinois House of Representatives election

• ... that in 1964, Illinoisans cast over 500 million votes in one election? Source: Statement of Vote
  • ALT1: ... that in 1964, the Illinois House of Representatives was elected at-large? Source: NY Times
  • ALT2: ... that the ballot (pictured) in the 1964 Illinois House of Representatives election listed 236 candidates and was 33 inches (84 cm) long? Source: Chicago Tribune
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fort Stonewall
  • Comment: Feel free to suggest alt hooks of course. Image here is for ALT2.

Improved to Good Article status by Elli (talk). Self-nominated at 06:35, 30 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1964 Illinois House of Representatives election; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• I'll review the first hook, since IMHO it is the most interesting. GA recentness (and of course length) checks out. Sourcing checks out, images in articles are properly licensed. QPQ is good. Good job on getting this to GA; I watched an interesting video about this election recently. Generalissima (talk) 22:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Ballot per county?

The pictured sample ballot was printed by Lake County. Was the actual ballot also printed separately by each county, or was a single ballot printed and used statewide? Did any counties not print sample ballots? jnestorius^(talk) 14:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

No 2605:8D80:423:B1FB:719C:11B:5586:9ADD (talk) 16:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Name cuange

Recent to charge to match name to” On November 3, 1964, Illinois chose all 177 members” for better understanding 2605:8D80:423:B1FB:719C:11B:5586:9ADD (talk) 16:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)