Talk:1962 Burmese coup d'état

Orphaned references in 1962 Burmese coup d'état

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 1962 Burmese coup d'état's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

I corrected the odd reference to the Rangoon University protests that included a denial of responsibility for a bombing the article didn't mention happening. The same source/author, Boudreau, describes the troops that put down the riots as firing on protestors and dynamiting the student union building. I believe that material was removed to improve the reputation of Ne Win and the Burmese government. I've restored it without attributing responsiblity for the actions and leaving his denial of blame in place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Bin Peters (talk • contribs) 22:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Reference named "ms":

• From Post-independence Burma, 1948–1962: Martin Smith (1991). Burma - Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity. London and New Jersey: Zed Books. pp. 49, 91, 50, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58–59, 60, 61, 60, 66, 65, 68, 69, 77, 78, 64, 70, 103, 92, 120, 176, 168–169, 177, 178, 180, 186, 195–197, 193, 202,
  204, 199, 200, 270, 269, 275–276, 292–3, 318–320, 25, 24, 1, 4–16, 365, 375–377, 414.
• From Japanese occupation of Burma: Martin Smith (1991). Burma - Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity. London and New Jersey: Zed Books. pp. 49, 91, 50, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58–59, 60, 61, 60, 66, 65, 68, 69, 77, 78, 64, 70, 103, 92, 120, 176, 168–169, 177, 178, 180, 186, 195–197, 193, , 202, 204, 199, 200, 270, 269, 275–276, 292–3, 318–320, 25, 24, 1, 4–16, 365, 375–377, 414.
• From Karen people: Smith, Martin (1991). Burma - Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity. London and New Jersey: Zed Books. pp. 50–51, 62–63, 72–73, 78–79, 82–84, 114–118, 86, 119.
• From Thirty Comrades: Martin Smith (1991). Burma - Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity. London and New Jersey: Zed Books. pp. 59, 107, 56, 92, 103, 108, 204, 278, 293, 208–209, 233, 276, 291, 178, 309, 204.
• From 8888 Uprising: Smith (1991)
• From Burmese Way to Socialism: Smith, Martin (1991). Burma — Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity. London and New Jersey: Zed Books. pp. 49, 91, 50, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58–9, 60, 61, 60, 66, 65, 68, 69, 77, 78, 64, 70, 103, 92, 120, 176, 168–9, 177, 178, 180, 186, 195–7, 193, 202, 204, 199, 200, 270, 269, 275–276, 292–3, 318–320, 25, 24, 1, 4–16, 365, 375–377, 414.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Organization - Coup Section

This writing is somewhat comically shuffled in chronology and laced with unclear modifiers and pronouns. Example:

Following riots at Rangoon University, troops were sent to restore order. Ne Win's military used comparative restraint against protesters. In 1988 (okay we're in 1988, ), 26 years later (every date in this article helpfully includes how long it was since the previous date, which is both obnoxious and hard to maintain through multiple edits), Ne Win denied any involvement in dynamiting of the Student Union building (What student union building? Maybe you should tell us it was bombed before telling us who wasn't involved), stating that his deputy Brigadier Aung Gyi, who by that time had fallen out with Ne Win and been dismissed, had given the order (So Ne Win said Aung Gyi gave the order I guess) and that he (Ne Win or Aung Gyi?) had to take responsibility as a "revolutionary leader" by giving the sword with sword and spear with spear speech (What speech? So Ne Win says that Aung Guy is responsible and has to give a "swords and spears speech" to take responsibility as a revolutionary leader?).

Shortly afterward (after 1988?), around 8 p.m. local time (is it important or informative that it was about 8 pm?), Ne Win addressed the nation in a five minute long radio speech which concluded with the statement: "if these disturbances were made to challenge us, I have to declare that we will fight sword with sword and spear with spear". (oh this swords and spears speech... Shouldn't it precede the reference? I thought he told Aung Gyi to give the "spears and swords" speech?)

On July 13, 1962, less than a week after the speech (July 13, 1962, which is less than a week after shortly-after 1988?), Ne Win left for Austria, Switzerland and the United Kingdom "for a medical check up".[6] All universities were closed for more than two years until September 1964 (Putting these in a paragraph together implies they are connected: So when Ne Win leaves for the doctor they close the university for two years?). Gripdamage (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistent reference to socialist rule

The article has an inconsistency within it:-

In the introduction:-

The 1962 Burmese coup d'état on 2 March 1962 marked the beginnings of socialist rule

In the Background (pre-coup section):-

On 31 January 1949, Ne Win was appointed Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces, and given total control of the army replacing General Smith Dun, an ethnic Karen. He rebuilt and restructured the armed forces along the ruling Socialist Party's political lines, but the country was still split and the government was ineffective.

If there was a ruling Socialist Party, the beginning of army rule couldn't be the beginning of socialist rule. John fea (talk) 22:54, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

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