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I noticed that a lot of the St.Louis seasons were put up but the sources for 35-36 did not elaborate on the details. The following is what I have in my notes but it only covers Sep, Oct, Nov, and Dec of 1935. It is confusing and I am unsure of what is considered official and the goalscorers would also be tough to sort out for the same reason. This list of Shamrocks intercity results is also incomplete. Source: St.Louis Post-Dispatch

Experimental league

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For the 1935-36 season Chicago tried a european style D1, D2, D3 format to their league. Phil A.Riley St.Louis soccer league president followed suit with a new experimental format as well. The idea was to make an eight team league instead of the usual 4 with 50 cent admission playing out of two fields. Four 'old pros' comprising the national champion Centrals, (Johnny) Marre's, Ben Millers, and Hellrung Grimms would be combined with four 'graduates' in the German Sport Club, George McGann's Schumachers, Ed Delaney's Hermanns, and Sociedad Espanola(Spanish Sport Club). The two fields used were Sportsman's Park and South Side Park aka National Softball Park. The referees enlisted were Oscar Mossman, Jimmy Dunn, Ribby Murphy, and Charley LaBarge. The league played three rounds beginning on October 6 before problems arose in the fourth week. The standings for the first three weeks are below.

St. Louis 8 Pts GP W L T GF GA Dif Perc
1 Democrats 5 3 2 0 1 12 4 +8 .833
2 Spanish 5 3 2 0 1 9 2 +7 .833
3 H&G 4 3 2 1 0 9 6 +3 .667
4 Marres 3 3 1 1 1 9 6 +3 .500
5 Ben Miller 3 3 1 1 1 5 5 0 .500
6 German 2 3 1 2 0 5 11 -6 .333
7 Hermanns 1 3 0 2 1 2 9 -7 .167
8 Schumachers 1 3 0 2 1 0 8 -8 .167

The fourth week (October 27) admission was reduced to 25 cents with ladies free. Two of the games were called off at South Side field because of conditions. The games at the other field were played after a delay due to the assumption that the games would also be called off for the same reason. The delay caused the games to be shortened and were played without a break with some players having left as well. It was decided that these games would be considered as exhibitions and not count in the standings and the round replayed. This never happened because by the next week the Schumachers, Hermanns, and German Sport Club withdrew from the league.
St.Louis 5
On November 3 prior games were scratched from the record and the league restarted with five teams: Ben Millers, H&G, Spanish, and St.Louis(formerly Democrats). The first round St.Louis toppled Ben Millers 6-1 while Spanish shutout Hellrungs 4-0, Marre's had a bye.
St.Louis 4
The following week(November 10) the league restarted a third time having returned to four teams and one field. The league would play at National Softball Park while the 'St.Louis 1' soon to be Father Dempsey's Shamrocks would be a league of their own at Sportsmans Park to entertain intercity competition. The next week (November 17) the St.Louis played their first games as the Shamrocks against the Maccabees of Chicago winning 4-2. The Spanish also played their first game as Burke's and went on to win the first half with a perfect record. First half season standings below.

St. Louis 4 Pts GP W L T GF GA Dif Perc
1 Burke's 16 8 8 0 0 18 2 +16 1.00
2 H&G 6 8 3 5 0 12 13 -1 .375
3 Marres 6 8 3 5 0 9 14 -5 .375
4 Ben Miller 4 8 2 6 0 8 18 -10 .250

Second half

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I believe that the only part of the season that is official is the first half of the 4-team league. As far as I know only one round was played in the second half. After that league contests were either postponed due to bad weather or national cup engagements. Burke's hit a bit of a slump because their first loss of the season was in the opening round of the second half with a second loss in the first round of the NCC.

Libro0 (talk) 08:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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