Talk:1834 French legislative election

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Party Breakdown

Number 57 removing all of the content I added is really unconstructive. If you think I've cited it poorly, or if there's some policy I missed, let's discuss it here rather than just reverting everything. I think that the party breakdown that I showed was supported by the sources, specifically Beck, Thomas (1974). French legislators, 1800-1834: A Study in Quantitative History. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 187. Retrieved 17 June 2023.. Many of the sources give conflicting information, so I added notes explaining the breakdowns given by other sources. There's no reason to delete all of this sourced information, especially when Roi et President (the only source now left in the article) just gives information copied from Quid, for which I provided a full citation.

The party names I used are the ones generally accepted for political currents in France at this time. If they need to be better cited, then say so and let's work on improving it, don't just revert everything. SilverStar54 (talk) 19:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I removed the information you added as:

It was wrong – the source lists 450 seats yet the total you had in the results table and infobox was 441
It didn't align with the source, which listed right/left/centre, not Resistance/Movement & Republicans/Legitimists
It contained apparent original research (party leaders)
Leaders seats should not be used in the infobox when the information is not in the article (as it is a violation of the infobox documentation)

I recently finished cleaning up these articles, as many of them contained information that did not match sources, hence keen not to start allowing disinformation back into them.

I was quite interested by the source provided for the 1837 election, as it gives a more detailed breakdown of the seats for the 1834 election as well, but one that is very different to the one in sources used for this (for example, the government having 163 seats, not 320 or something). Do you have any idea why? Cheers, Number 5 7 20:54, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To answer the last question first, my suspicion is that La Presse was back-dating political divisions that emerged later. For example, they give 1834 figures for Guizot's faction, but Guizot didn't break with the ministry faction until 1837. The editors probably just counted the number of deputies elected in 1834 that would eventually support Guizot and gave that as the number of his supporters elected in 1834. It makes a sort of sense in the context of the article, but it would be anachronistic for us to put that as one of the political divisions that existed in 1834. This is backed up by the fact that none of the other sources separate out Guizot's faction for 1834.

Edit: This is why in the 1837 article I labelled the earlier numbers given by La Presse as "before election", not "last election". SilverStar54 (talk) 23:10, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]