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A fact from 17th Panzer Division appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 November 2008 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that by Christmas Eve 1942, the German 17th Panzer Division had only eight tanks and one anti-tank gun left after its failed attempt to break through to Stalingrad?

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On 23 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from 17th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) to 17th Panzer Division. The result of the discussion was moved.

Propaganda

Why is the 1943 book being labelled "propaganda"? The article gives no hint. Is any history published in Germany during the war going to be dismissed as propaganda? Many divisions published histories which would naturally not have benefited from deep study of enemy archives, etc. - this would be natural during wartime, and the Allies did this as well. Also, the Germans (and Allies also) published yearbooks, etc. I'm not sure calling them "propaganda" is all that accurate as they were intended for the soldiers themselves rather than for widespread distribution.139.48.25.60 (talk) 19:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think, most books and movies about the war, published during the war, would qualify as propaganda, no matter from which side. As a matter of fact, in my opinion, most war movies made after the war still qualify for it, too. In the case of the book in this article, while I havn't read it, I had a browse through it and it seems propagandistic to me. EA210269 (talk) 01:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

show me a "wartime military book" which is not "propagandistic". Of course these books or other publications were propaganda, what else. Self-evident. ("wartime propaganda book", is somewhat like a round circle, a pleonasm). --213.172.123.242 (talk) 17:22, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:4th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —The Sky Bot 03:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]