Talk:12
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Organization of number pages and number disambiguation pages
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PolarYukon (talk) 16:18, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Retired jersey numbers
[edit]Per WP:PRESERVE, here is the list of retired #12 jersey numbers and racecars that were mentioned in the article:
The jersey number 12 has been retired by several North American sports teams in honor of past playing greats (or, in one case, a team's fans):
- In Major League Baseball:
- The Tampa Bay Rays, for Hall of Famer Wade Boggs.
- The Toronto Blue Jays, for Hall of Famer Roberto Alomar.
- In the NFL:
- The New England Patriots, for Tom Brady.
- The Buffalo Bills, for Hall of Famer Jim Kelly.
- The Miami Dolphins, for Hall of Famer Bob Griese.
- The New York Jets, for Hall of Famer Joe Namath.
- The San Francisco 49ers, for John Brodie.
- The Seattle Seahawks, for their fans (the "12th Man").
- The Dallas Cowboys have a policy of not retiring numbers. However, the team has not issued #12 since the retirement of Hall of Famer Roger Staubach.
- The Pittsburgh Steelers currently have a policy of not retiring numbers, having retired only two numbers (70 & 75) in their earlier history. However, the Steelers have not issued #12 since the retirement of Hall of Famer Terry Bradshaw.
- In the NBA:
- The Cincinnati Royals, for Hall of Famer Maurice Stokes, who suffered a career-ending head injury in 1958, the team's first season in Cincinnati. The franchise continues to honor the number in its current incarnation as the Sacramento Kings.
- The New York Knicks, for Dick Barnett.
- The Utah Jazz, for Hall of Famer John Stockton.
- In the NHL:
- The Detroit Red Wings, for Hall of Famer Sid Abel.
- The Montreal Canadiens, for Hall of Famers Yvan Cournoyer and Dickie Moore.
- The Vancouver Canucks, for Stan Smyl.
- The jersey number 12 has also been retired by the men's basketball program of the University of North Carolina for Phil Ford.
In Formula One: Ayrton Senna's racing number at Lotus and McLaren. It is currently used by Felipe Nasr for Sauber.
In Championship car racing: Eddie Sachs drove a number 12 car in the 1961 Indianapolis 500.
This material may be of interest for a future List of retired numbers in sports article. — JFG talk 22:42, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Redirect???
[edit]I think all numbers <= 200 (including 0) should redirect the article of numbers, numbers > 200 should redirect the article of years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.8.197.143 (talk) 18:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- This is a very reasonable idea which has been discussed before. 0 has always been about the number but, until last year, positive numbers linked to years. For example, the article now at AD 1 was called simply 1. Following discussion at Talk:AD 1 (the early part is archived in Talk:AD 1/Archive 1), 1 to 10 became integers and 11 to 100 became disambiguation pages. There may still be scope for going further, as there is a good case for arguing that the year AD 101 is not the primary topic for the term 101. Certes (talk) 19:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Why linked to disambiguation pages?? 11 to 100 can also linked to numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.8.197.143 (talk) 20:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- 11 to 100 are linked to disambiguation pages because the long discussion that I linked to above didn't reach a consensus to change them to numbers. Please feel free to suggest the change again. I could certainly support such a proposal. Certes (talk) 21:15, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Can I move 11 to 50 to number pages? 51 to 100 to year pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xayahrainie43 (talk • contribs) 03:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Xayahrainie43: Not immediately, but those ideas may be worth a requested move or a request for comments on a more widely read talk page. Personally, I would support the first idea (move 11 → 11 (disambiguation) and 11 (number) → 11, etc.) but several editors would disagree. If I've understood your second idea correctly (move 51 → 51 (disambiguation) and AD 51 → 51, etc.) then I would oppose it, because I don't think that the year AD 51 is the primary topic for the term "51". Certes (talk) 11:12, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, I want to let 1 to 50 become integers, why disagree that? —— Xayahrainie43 (talk) 13:10, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with your suggestion, but we are in a minority. A 2017 debate found no consensus for it. For reasons I don't quite understand, most editors feel that 11 usually means something other than the number after 10. Certes (talk) 13:24, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
12
[edit]12 Bolson patel (talk) 08:47, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
"Talk:12 (disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Talk:12 (disambiguation). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 17:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)