Talk:11th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate)

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Review: July 30, 2020. (Reviewed version).

A fact from 11th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 July 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a Missouri Confederate infantry regiment lost many men on Graveyard Hill?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Battle of Jenkins' Ferry was the last major battle the 11th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate) fought in? "the regiment experience no further serious combat after the battle at Jenkins' Ferry" McGhee 2008
- ALT1:... that the 11th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate) suffered 159 casualties at the Battle of Helena? "regiment lost 15 killed, 78 wounded, and 66 missing in the battle [Helena]" McGhee 2008

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of Queen Victoria, Valletta
Comment: The sentence with the inline citation for ALT1 refers to the 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment; the 11th Missouri Infantry was known as the 8th Missouri Infantry at the time of the Battle of Helena

Moved to mainspace by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 19:44, 17 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: An interesting and well constructed article that is new enough, long enough and neutrally written. I'm taking the material and the hooks in good faith. My only comment is that I'm slightly uncomfortable with ALT1 because, as is rightly pointed out, it was not the 11th but the 8th Missouri that took part in the Battle of Helena. I know it's only a name change, but it technically isn't correct and could cause confusion. Perhaps it could be reworded along the lines of ALT1:... that the 8th Missouri Infantry, later renamed the 11th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate), suffered 159 casualties at the Battle of Helena? Bermicourt (talk) 08:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm, Bermicourt: Hi. I came by looking for hooks to promote, and neither of these are particularly interesting. Perhaps:

ALT2: ... that a Missouri Confederate infantry regiment lost many men on Graveyard Hill?

That wording also gets around the 8 vs 11 issue. Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That wording works for me if Bermicourt will review it. I've done a bunch of these regimental articles, and I'm honestly running out of interesting things to say about them. Hog Farm (talk) 14:27, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a problem with that either. Let's go with ALT2 then. Bermicourt (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please add an inline cite for the Graveyard Hill fact. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 06:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I've added a citation after the sentence mentioning Graveyard Hill. Is the one after the 159 casualties sufficient in combination? Hog Farm _Bacon 13:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: thank you, but we also need a cite after the heavy casualties sentence. Yoninah (talk) 13:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Done by combining sentences. Hog Farm _Bacon 13:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks. Restoring tick per Bermicourt's review. Yoninah (talk) 13:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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