Talk:116th Street Crew

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This article needs major reorganization - it seems to be more about this guy Salerno than about the Palma Boys Club.Rogermx 15:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article issues

This entire article appears to be original research, it is based primarily on the non-RS "gang rule" website, and its premise and title are unsupported by reliable sources. Have nominated for deletion. ScottyBerg (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We need more information before deleting article

Of the 28 citations for this article, 17 are from books, newspapers, and other reliable sources used in dozens of Wiki articles on mobsters. In fact, I am currently reading the "First Family" book by Mike Dash, one of the references for this article. Also, having looked at the "Gang Rule" website, I don't understand why Scotty believes it is unreliable or represents original research. Scotty, could you please provide more details to support your request? Thank you. Rogermx (talk) 21:15, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Roger, what I'm not seeing are reliable sources supporting the proposition that something called a "116th Street Crew" is at work here. I have some Mafia books. None talk about it. There was a heavy Mafia presence in East Harlem via the Genovese crime family, but a specific crew by that name is another matter. Can you cite any reliable sources that refer to such an organization? The only reference that makes use of that finding is an affidavit from Cafaro, but that's a primary source, and it's just not enough. Not even the Gang Rule website mentions it. One possible solution may be to reframe the article with a different title, maybe "East Harlem mafia" but you would have to include the Luchese family, right? ScottyBerg (talk) 22:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scotty, you make some good points. I have no problem with your suggestions for reframing the article.Rogermx (talk) 15:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

I propose the article be renamed to Genovese crime family in East Harlem. --Vic49 (talk) 18:15, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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