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Display of the "V" for Navy/USMC
I noticed just now that we have added examples of the Navy/USMC "V" positioned in the center of the ribbon as it should be (thanks Eric Serge!). There is a question I'd like to ask... we started down this path when this edit was made referring to Navy Regulation 5402. Yahweh Saves, can you link us to that regulation somewhere that we can see it online? I went looking for it just now but could only find Regulation 5317 (from the Navy BUPERS site) which talks about bronze V's rather than gold V's. Thanks, AzureCitizen (talk) 22:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- @AzureCitizen:: Here you go [1]. EricSerge (talk) 00:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- @AzureCitizen:: I took your commendation of my addition of Navy/USMC "V" device examples to be consensus that those were a good idea. I now see they were reverted by another editor with no explanation. I do not want to appear to be edit warring, but if you believe they have value, perhaps you would consider restoring them. EricSerge (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think you are right about it being in the middle, but in my 18 years in the USN I never met a multiple V device recipient (for the same medal - although I've seen military records where it is listed). Heck, even a 3 star Navy Seal Admiral doesn't have it [2]. I say go with what the sources say and a photo of someone actually wearing it this way would end any argument. -OberRanks (talk) 16:40, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- @OberRanks:File:Richard Dunleavy.JPG here is an admiral with a multiple with V on the Commendation Medal. I will kill the 4 stars and V and restore the others. EricSerge (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think you are right about it being in the middle, but in my 18 years in the USN I never met a multiple V device recipient (for the same medal - although I've seen military records where it is listed). Heck, even a 3 star Navy Seal Admiral doesn't have it [2]. I say go with what the sources say and a photo of someone actually wearing it this way would end any argument. -OberRanks (talk) 16:40, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- @AzureCitizen:: I took your commendation of my addition of Navy/USMC "V" device examples to be consensus that those were a good idea. I now see they were reverted by another editor with no explanation. I do not want to appear to be edit warring, but if you believe they have value, perhaps you would consider restoring them. EricSerge (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Nice job, Eric. I decided it might be useful to build on the examples you made, so I created separate ones for USA/USAF and USN/USMC/USCG so that the differences are readily apparent and the reader can see the logical progression therein. Look good to you? Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 22:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the compliment. The Army and Air Force section turned out nicely. Your formatting of the two sections is a great logical choice. I tweaked the Navy, Marines, and Coast Guard section adding the LoM which can have a "V" device when awarded by those services and removed the Joint Service Commendation Medal since joint awards always use oak leaf clusters. EricSerge (talk) 22:45, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- Good catch... the oak-leaf-cluster-only proviso on DOD awards slipped my mind! Good assortment and it looks very accurate now... AzureCitizen (talk) 22:51, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
CG may need a separate section of examples since it uses a bronze V instead of the gold V and may have an O device that can be worn with the V device (Combat V is worn to the right of the O device). The Coast Guard Commendation Medal ribbon with Combat V could be displayed as an example. YahwehSaves (talk) 05:47, 10 May 2014 (UTC)