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Strange page name

This page, "Help:Table. Advanced", has an unusual name that does not conform to any page naming scheme I have seen on Wikipedia. Is it a mistake? If not, what is the reasoning behind the name? If it is a mistake (or a rough draft name), I recommend "Help:Table/Advanced" as a more standard name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is odd and looks like a typo. I see a section header with the same period: "mw-datatable. Highlight rows. White background". I recommend the same, remove the periods. Jroberson108 (talk) 21:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jonesey95. See: Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Leftover subpages? Slashes are for subpages. For example:

Special:MyPage/vector-2022.css which for me is User:Timeshifter/vector-2022.css - For Vector 2022.

Special:MyPage/sandbox which for me is User:Timeshifter/sandbox.

To find subpages:

Special:Prefixindex/User:Timeshifter/

--Timeshifter (talk) 05:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. This page appears to be intended as an adjunct to Help:Table, like Help:Table/Width. Hence the suggestion of a similar name. The current name makes no sense to me, and to at least one other editor. Again, what is the reasoning behind the name? – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:14, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a minor subpage. There are whole new areas of table info not previously discussed in Help:Table. --Timeshifter (talk) 05:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the admin Novem Linguae substituted the slash. See diff. Edit summary: "Novem Linguae moved page Help:Table. Advanced to Help:Table/Advanced: periods very uncommon in titles, slash better I think".

I looked at Wikipedia:Article titles and did not see a prohibition of periods in titles.

I was mainly concerned that it may be a questionable use of subpages.

But I can live with the slash if an admin sees no problem with it. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:37, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I moved it without seeing this talk page discussion. I guess we all had the same idea :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Timeshifter: If you still couldn't find it, the restriction is mentioned at WP:TSC. Jroberson108 (talk) 10:04, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The restriction is only for periods used in particular ways. WP:TSC links to:

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)

A plain old period is not prohibited. As noted in the Novem Linguae edit summary: "periods very uncommon in titles". --Timeshifter (talk) 11:57, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fork

I just discovered Wikipedia:Advanced table formatting, which is a fairly clear WP:SAMETYPEFORK of this page. This page was created because Help:Table was too long. If we merge the two pages, we will be back where we started. My proposed solution is a split followed by a merge. This page currently deals with two related, but distinct, ideas. One is "what you can do with a table": sections like Horizontal alignment in cells, Sortable tables, and Collapsible tables. The other is "how you create a table": sections like Tables and visual editor, Spreadsheet/database tables to wikitables, and Add link brackets to text in each cell in a column. I think we should split those sections out into a page such as Help:Creating tables, and then merge Wikipedia:Advanced table formatting with this page and the newly created page (I realize that page is older, but I think a help page belongs in the help namespace). Thoughts? House Blaster^talk 20:22, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

HouseBlaster. Feel free to do so. Please do not delete anything yet though. Let's see what the 2 pages look like first. Also, then we will have separate histories for each page to see clearly what is then rewritten or deleted. --Timeshifter (talk) 20:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Only two weeks later, I have created Help:Creating tables. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 21:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HouseBlaster. Thanks. I will not be able to help much the next week or two. You still need to remove the duplicate sections from Help:Table/Advanced. --Timeshifter (talk) 16:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]