Draft talk:I Am Enough Grace Byers

Comments on notability

@ApRaGol: left this on my talk page so I am moving it here and responding.

About the page for 'I am Enough' being declined: The book is by Grace Byers, who has her own Wikipedia page. The book 'I Am Enough' is mentioned in her page. That confirms notability.

The relevant notability guideline is WP:BKCRIT which has you can see does not say that the author's page mentioning the book grants the book sufficient notability for the book to be its own page. Point 5 there is most relevant. I will review draft's for their notability according to the guidelines WP:GNG always and WP:NBOOK in this case. If you see something in those guidelines that indicates I am mistaken I will happily correct my error. I always tell new users that I want them to feel welcome on WP and I am happy to do what I can to assist you. Additionally, I am a CSU alum so I am especially sympathetic in this case. For this book I mentioned in a comment that if you had a second independent literary review source that could establish notability. Czarking0 (talk) 18:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Czarking0, I'd give it a "good enough for AfC" notability pass based on the review and the #1 bestseller listing in the NYT. -- asilvering (talk) 18:51, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NYT bestseller is not regarded as establishing notability by community guidelines as it is not "a major literary award" under WP:BKCRIT. Partially because you can just pay to be on the NYT bestseller list. Czarking0 (talk) 18:54, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not a major literary award, but it implies that the coverage is out there; basically, it's a sign that AfD participants will actually go digging instead of going "what is this trash?" The bar at AfC isn't "I, personally, would !vote keep, based on this evidence alone", but "better than 50:50 chance of not being deleted at AfD". Despite that, though, I left this one in the queue when I saw it earlier because of the issue you noticed in your first AFCH comment on the draft. I hadn't checked if those citations were misleading or not, but it seemed likely to me that they would be. I wouldn't want to accept a draft with that kind of problem. -- asilvering (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am curious, I do not see you on the list of active reviewers but you say you work on AfC. Do all admins have AfC review permissions? Czarking0 (talk) 18:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All admins and all NPPers have AFCH access, so if you become either one of those we take you off the AFCH list. -- asilvering (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]