Talk:Arrow Lake (microprocessor)
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Series 2 vs Series 200
[edit]@197.207.159.110 Please, don't revert my edits on "Series 200" naming without providing references.
Here's the links to recent new in creditable sources:
- 25 May: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-reportedly-changes-upcoming-ryzen-cpu-branding-to-one-up-intel
- 31 May: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2024/03/31/intel-arrow-lake-now-core-ultra-200--everything-else-we-know-so-far/
- older: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arrow-lake-reportedly-confirmed-to-launch-as-core-ultra-200-series-raptor-lake-h-refresh-coming-as-core-200h
Finnan (talk) 20:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Intel refers to it as Series 2 (like Lunar Lake):
- 10 Oct: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/225837/products-formerly-arrow-lake.html
- 10 Oct: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/resources/press-kit-core-ultra-series-2.html
Though they also mention a 200S series. :shrug: Pizzahut2 (talk) 12:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
All the processors, desktop and mobile included, are Core Ultra (Series 2) according to Intel's technical documentations. The desktop processors are Core Ultra 200S Series, not Core Ultra 200 Series.[1] 84.250.15.152 (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Intel calls the mobile processors officially as Core Ultra 200V Series processors in the reference above (formerly code named Lunar Lake), and those mobile processors are part of the Core Ultra Processors (Series 2) product collection; this product collection also contains the Core Ultra 200S Series processors (formerly code named Arrow Lake). 84.250.15.152 (talk) 22:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC); edited 22:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
References
CPU infobox
[edit]The CPU infobox could use a rewrite. It uses {{Infobox CPU}} right now, but it only has P-core information (Lion Cove) on display right now. I noticed there's a more flexible, newer {{Infobox CPU series}} template and Lunar Lake article uses this nicely to display both P-cores and E-cores, disregarding that Lunar Lake is not really "series" like Core Ultra (Series 2) in name. 84.250.15.152 (talk) 22:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
DDR5-5600 or DDR5-6400
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ResolvedAs I'm writing this, reviews and sales are still embargoed and the Internet doesn't have much good, reliable information available about supported memory configurations. Tom's Hardware went to claim DDR5-5600 support with UDIMMs, based on two hardware leakers or rumors,[1][2] which is lower than the DDR5-6400 unconditionally stated in this wiki article as of revision 1252330122 (per Intel Product Specifications (ARK) and Intel's product marketing). It wouldn't be the first time when Tom's Hardware has been wrong or contradictory recently,[3] when reporting rumors as news, but the "Features" section needs some review in this regard (soon). I'm adding
{{Current|section}} there for now.
References
- ^ Harper, Christopher (12 September 2024). "High-end Intel Z890 motherboards will support up to DDR5-9200 RAM — 64% higher than the rumored Arrow Lake native support for DDR5-5600". Tom's Hardware. Retrieved 20 October 2024.
... The leaked specifications provide us with a sneak peek at the official supported data rates on Arrow Lake. DDR5-5600 is supported using single- or dual-rank memory in 1DPC (DIMM per channel) configurations. In a 2DPC configuration, however, data rate support drops to DDR5-4800 for single-rank and DDR5-4400 for dual-rank memory modules. ...
- ^ Morales, Jowi (15 October 2024). "Intel's Arrow Lake official memory speeds are unchanged with standard memory sticks — pricier CUDIMM memory needed for faster base spec". Tom's Hardware. Retrieved 20 October 2024.
... However, hardware leaker @harukaze5710 shared some documentation on X that showed that the chips supported the faster standard when using more expensive CUDIMM. Standard UDIMM sticks would be limited to DDR5-5600 unless you use XMP to overclock them. ... Note that the Arrow Lake chips are only specced up to DDR5-6400 with CUDIMMs and DDR-5600 with standard DIMMs. ...
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84.250.15.152 (talk) 23:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Incorrect fact about SMT
[edit]Just an FYI, @4202C. The sentence "Its removal in Arrow Lake marks the first time since then that SMT has been completely removed from a new x86-64 Intel performance-oriented core architecture" is incorrect, because the Core microarchitecture CPUs (e.g. Core 2 Duo) did not have SMT and it was a major new architecture released in 2006, several years after Pentium 4 HT. Also, the predecessor Core Solo/Duo processors based on Yonah did not have SMT either. Although Yonah is based on P6 and not Netburst, it still comes after the P4 HT in timeline and not before it though. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing it out. If it is incorrect, feel free to correct it. I believe the Lunar Lake article has properly clarified it. 4202C (talk) 04:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)