Category talk:Tributaries of the Euphrates River

Opposed speedy move request

Category:Tributaries of the Euphrates River to Category:Tributaries of the Euphrates – C2D. Russian Rocky (talk) 16:23, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Bridges over the Euphrates River to Category:Bridges over the Euphrates
- Category:Dams on the Euphrates River to Category:Dams on the Euphrates
- Category:Dams in the Euphrates River basin to Category:Dams in the Euphrates basin
- Category:Populated places on the Euphrates River to Category:Populated places on the Euphrates
  - Oppose - not a speedy per Euphrates (disambiguation) and 2009 October 15#River categories: matching to article names (and Category:Euphrates should be moved back as it was speedily renamed despite the earlier cfd). Oculi (talk) 21:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oppose - not a speedy per Oculi. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:14, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - I've checked this 2009 discussion (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 October 15#Category:Euphrates River). Two users (Good Ol’factory (the nominator), Debresser) agreed to move Category:Euphrates River to Category:Euphrates, two users (Carlaude and Postdlf) opposed it and one user (Peterkingiron) said to keep the name "Euphrates River" because the name "Euphrates" is "wrong" for some unspecified reason and "it is the article that should be renamed" (though, he's never created an RM on the main article's talk to explain why it's "wrong").

Take a note that Carlaude opposed only because of Category:Euphrates River, which was in danger of getting erased. Carlaude said: "I will support the proposed rename if it is not considered an obstacle to keeping Category:Euphrates River." So it could be resolved by creating a soft category redirect (WP:SOFTREDIR). I also have no idea why we must keep either Category:Euphrates River or Category:Euphrates each time, when there are soft redirects.

Also, Postdlf's rationale ("Oppose per my comments re: the related proposed renaming of Category:River Tiber.") was overturned by Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 21#Tiber. The Tiber's category is now Category:Tiber.

My two cents: Judging by Euphrates (disambiguation), there is only one notable eponymous entry, Euphrates the Stoic. However, there is no ambiguity in our case because the above-mentioned subcategories of Category:Euphrates use "the Euphrates" in one way or another, which exclusively refers to the river (wiktionary:Euphrates#English). Russian Rocky (talk) 04:53, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Euphrates (disambiguation) contains nothing that is also titled simply Euphrates, as such none of the entries there use parenthetical disambiguation, except Euphrates River (album) but this is an apparently obscure entry compared to the river. As such, I regard the move request as valid. Brandmeister^talk 15:02, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]