Category talk:Proud Boys
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categories are original research and contrary to fact
[edit]The group does not identify as white nationalist or white supremacist so it is an argument. The purpose of the organization is a statement of fact. (1) Do active organizations have the same standard of proof as living persons? (2) Claims that there is a consensus are also arguments and need citation (3) the claim cannot explain the fact the organization being led by an Afro Cuban. Please review legitimate self-identifying white supremacy or nationalist organizations. If user:twinkle wishes to make an argument please point to the argument or make it in page otherwise one cannot label a group what it does not identify as. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.246.211.143 (talk) 11:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)