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Please explain category mysteries

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I first came across this category on July 5, 2020, when I was browsing Category:CS1 maint: unrecognized language, and I happened to select 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in New York, and this article was also in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. So I went to this category page and clicked the "Article namespace" link, which goes to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category%3APages%20where%20template%20include%20size%20is%20exceeded&cmprop=title&cmlimit=500&cmnamespace=0&format=xml, which then displayed 3 articles:

On July 6, I edited 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in New York, and did many "Show changes" as I worked, and after I had fixed many other issues, it was still showing up in the category, and I noticed that the same references were called repeatedly. So, I created <ref name>s and that resulted in the article coming out of the category. This was a big deal, because in the version just before I edited it, in this article of 687 footnotes, the last good footnote is 637, and all the footnotes after that are messed up; my edit took care of this.

Then I came to List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus and I noticed it had a lot of reference errors, i.e. named references that were used but never defined. From the page history, it seemed that the same edit that created the reference errors also put this article in this category. I went to the talk page and asked editors to fix the reference errors, and they did so, but that didn't take the page out of this category. Then I went to COVID-19 pandemic and attempted to determine from the page history which edit put the article in this category. The problem was, results were not stable. I could view an old version of the page and it would be in the category, and then I would view it again, and it would not be in this category. I know this sounds crazy, but this is what I saw.

In contrast to 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in New York, where being in this category was associated with about 50 footnotes displaying badly, for COVID-19 pandemic and List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus, I don't see any display problems at all.

Now when I click the "Article namespace" link, there are 3 articles:

So the article Israel is new in the category, within the past 24 hours. When did it really join the category? Right now, viewing the the version dated 14:50, 6 July 2020, it is in the category, and viewing the next older version, dated 01:46, 2 July 2020‎, it is not in the category. The crazy thing is: While I was searching to find the oldest version in the category, I viewed the version dated 00:05, 29 June 2020, and it was in the category, but I am not able to duplicate this.

  1. Has anyone else noticed that viewing old versions of articles, the status in or out of the category can change? Why would this happen?
  2. If an article is in the category, but seems to display normally, is important to fix it?
  3. Are there recent changes in Wikipedia that affect the inclusion of pages in this category?
  4. Are there quantifiable measures for inclusion in the category that can be explained, so if one is trying to fix an article in the category, one has a sense of how far it is from the boundary?

—Anomalocaris (talk) 06:35, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template

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For those who peruse this category often, I recently created a template for when citations are not displayed properly because of the article size. Zoozaz1 (talk) 22:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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