Category talk:Mammal breeds domesticated by Indigenous peoples

Opposed speedy move request

• Category:Sheep breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Sheep breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Pig breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Pig breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Horse breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Horse breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Dog breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Dog breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Mammal breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Mammal breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:38, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous Americans to Category:Breeds originating from indigenous Americans – C2A: cf. Category:Crops originating from indigenous Americans Wikihistorian (talk) 13:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the pertinent article. See my comments on "Breeds originating from Indigenous people" below for the rest of my rationale. Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous people to Category:Breeds originating from indigenous people – C2A. Wikihistorian (talk) 13:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Move to full CfD. Indigenous peoples is the pertinent article (note the plural), and the first endnote there says that most style guides recommend a capital "I" in running text. The category's current scope is conceptually shaky, conflating as it does people indigenous to the Americas with ones from the Basque Country; it should probably be reserved for capital-I Indigenous peoples, which means only the first group. The idea of animal breeds originating from people has a problematic ring; is there a better way of expressing this? Ham II (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  Then Category:Crops originating from indigenous Americans, Category:History of indigenous peoples of the Americas, Category:History of indigenous peoples of North America, Category:History of indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest, Category:Assimilation of indigenous peoples of North America, Category:Treaties of indigenous peoples of North America, Category:Wars involving the indigenous peoples of North America, Category:History of indigenous peoples of South America, Category:Genocide of indigenous peoples of the Americas, Category:Genocide of indigenous peoples of North America, Category:Genocide of indigenous peoples of South America, Category:Lists of indigenous peoples of the Americas, Category:Children's books about indigenous peoples of the Americas, Category:Non-fiction books about indigenous peoples of the Americas should be renamed with a capital "I" in running text? Wikihistorian (talk) 07:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Wikihistorian: "Indigenous people(s)" without a geographical qualifier is where capitalization is an issue, because a lower-case "i" would raise the question of who the indigenous Europeans are, and whether a category tree should include them as well as people indigenous to other continents. That means capitalization only really has a bearing on Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous people out of the categories named in this discussion. I could live with the inconsistency of "Indigenous peoples" tout court and "indigenous peoples of North America", but someone arguing for consistency would also have a point. Ham II (talk) 09:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)