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Opposed nomination for renaming

Moved from WP:CFDS

– – Fayenatic London 20:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Church patriarchs to Category:Patriarchates – WP:C2D: Patriarchate. Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Chicbyaccident: Don't you mean Category:Church patriarchs to Category:Patriarchs – WP:C2D: Patriarch? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:13, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not originally (how one scope fit into the other only goes one way), but would endorse that as a secondary best alternative. Chicbyaccident (talk) 19:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Only one of the subcategories is about patriarchates, all others are about patriarchs. I would suggest to remove the one patriarchates subcat from this category and proceed with Category:Church patriarchs to Category:Patriarchs indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's good that you brings this up. There is a confusing, seemingly randon inconsistency between prevalence of institution and/or office-holders. In that issue, I have came to usually prefer the reference to the institution if only one article/catgery exists, such as the category in question in this speedy request. However, still, I maintain office-holder-centric naming per your suggestion as the second best. Chicbyaccident (talk) 07:01, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For the larger tree of Bishops, Bishops > Episcopacy > Dioceses. This structure was set up by user:Laurel Lodged two years ago and has not been challenged, although I would have put both Bishops and Dioceses within Episcopacy, where that level exists. Anyway, it suggests that Patriarchs should remain the head topic over Patriarchates. – Fayenatic London 08:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm open to persuasion on an Episcopacy > Bishops > Dioceses structure. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:32, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as ambiguous, see Patriarch (disambiguation). I have made Category:Patriarchs a category disambiguation page. – Fayenatic London 08:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Fayenatic london: Would Category:Christian patriarchs work for you? Chicbyaccident (talk) 08:56, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that would be an improvement, as many Protestants would probably associate the word primarily with the Biblical patriarchs. In any case there is no speedy criterion that fits, so it would require a full CFD discussion. – Fayenatic London 09:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I understand your objections. I won't take this one to CfD. I'm leaving it as is. Chicbyaccident (talk) 12:09, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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