Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philadelphia/Archive 1

Archive 1

Philadelphia County Article merge

Their has been a effort by several users to merge Philadelphia County into the Philadelphia article, for the past several months i have been an effective one man army in trying to prevent this merger, the least of wich has been a massive expansion of the artile. I belive that a merger will do nothing but sigificantly dilute the information currently present in the article and confuse lay-persons in that their is and was a diffrence between the county and the city, rather then a passing mention of the merger. I also apply this dlution in makeup of Philadelphia County prior to the 1854 merger, ie the boroughs and townships. Expansion of the article might prove difficulte as resources on the web about the county are extremely limited. I for one plan on disputing any merge of the the two articles, though i will let memebrs come to their own conclusion. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:01, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• I agree that Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania should be a distinct article from the Philadelphia article. At the time of the 1854 merger, Philadelphia County contained 6 of the 30 most populous cities in America[1]; surely it had some history under its belt by then.  :-) This raises another question, touching on the question of neighborhood article titles: say we standardize to "NeighborhoodName, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania", what about neighborhoods that descend from formerly independent municipalities, like Spring Garden or Kensington? Should their predecessors have articles at "NeighborhoodName, Pennsylvania", or merely redirects? --CComMack 10:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• • Well if their is anyone that can add anything to the county article to make it stronger, it would be well apprecheated, the big argument is that the city and the county are completly conslidated which they are not, considering that i am a former resident of the city, much to my misfortunie, and filling out forms and having to put in Philadelphia County plus the research i have done, their is no such thing as the County and City of Philadelphia, a similar thing to Denver and San Francisco, nor is the City and Indpendent City, The city of Philadelphia is part of the County of Philadelphia, the just happen to have the same borders, and the city happens to manage the affairs within thos boundaries. But Anyway

• • • As for the hood names, i have tackled this on once already. First things is with pass over from 1854 to current, you have to identify which 1854 entinity corsponds to the current neighborhood, so far their are two wich are preety much exaxt, Manayunk Borough with the current Manayunk (so i have Manayunk Borough redirecting to Manayunk, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) and Northern Liberties District (not the township) with the current Northern Liberties (which i have in the same form as Manayunk). To be hnoest i perfer the NeighborhoodName, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania becuas it can fall into the City/Borough/Township, County, Pennsylvania format as well, and their are several that will have to fall into the format by default due to the use elswhere in the state or world. Thats just my perfence, but should a question come, and evaluation on case by case basis might be warented untill things can be smoothed out or a question comes up. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 20:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• Spikebrennan 19:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC) says: I believe that the proper place for this discussion is the Talk: Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania page and not here.

Philadelphia County Category merge

I believe that we should merge the city and county categories. Having a separate page on the history of the county is fine, but maintaining a separate CATEGORY is duplicative. Get rid of the Philadelphia County Category. **Wikipedia lists Philadelphia as a consolidated city-county. Any article that doesn't belong directly in the Philadelphia Category and is related to the County, probably belongs elsewhere (like Philaelphia History Category). evrik 05:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• I agree. South Philly 15:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Geographic Scope

What should the geographic scope of this project be? I wrote the project page specifying not only the city itself, but the Delaware Valley as well, which I left undefined. It seems obvious that we should hold ourselves within some county boundaries, but how many? Just one (Philadelphia)? Or five (add Bucks, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery)? Or eight (add Camden, Burlington, Gloucester)? Ten (add Salem, New Castle)? Eleven (add Mercer)?

Obviously, we could be really bloated/imperialistic about this if we so desired, but we should set limits now, even if we want to revisit them later. I favor the eight-county domain outlined above, but I realize some might want to hold to the Five (PA) Counties, or even stop at the city limits. What do y'all think? --CComMack 10:35, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• I would go with the 5 PA counties at least Camden in NJ, to cover Camden City and it's environs, and maybe Gloucester and portions of Burlington. From their i think we should ss how things work out and the adjust as needed. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 20:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• • I'd say the 5 PA counties plus the immediate New Jersey environs would seem appropriate - the 8 counties might make sense, then. john k 06:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

• • • The eight counties are what would comprise the Philadelphia CMSA.evrik 06:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

As a longtime citizen of New Jersey (Cherry Hill, Haddon Twp, Collingswood, |Paulsboro, Westville, |Gloucester City), I resent your expansionistic aims. Not everything in South Jersey belongs in a Philadelphia WikiProject. You claimed the Latin Casino, which I grudgingly admit belongs, since it once actually was located in Philadelphia and then moved. But I would strongly oppose adding Garden State Park to your WikiProject. It's a New Jersey place, with New Jersey history, and Philadelphia had absolutely nothing to do with it. Neither would Atlantic City, New Jersey belong here; just because 90% of the billboards along the eastbound side of Ben Franklin Bridge advertise AC casinos does not mean AC is part of Philadelphia. --Rpresser 01:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• • • Rpresser, I think some of the New Jersey locations can be included without being too expansionist. Other cities wrestle with this same issue. The St. Louis, Missouri article includes references to museums in Illinois, and to musicians such as Miles Davis who started their career in East St. Louis, Illinois. Waarmstr 14:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• • I'm in favor of the 8 county region. Waarmstr 14:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

New Stub

To better organize and fine where expansion is need on articles pertaining to SEPTA i created a SEPTA-stub for us in tagging SEPTA related articles that need to be expanded. We will see how long it works though. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Um, shouldn't this perhaps go through the process at WP:WSS first? I doubt there are actually many SEPTA stubs right now, and it isn't a great hardship to just double-tag them with {{Philadelphia-stub}} and {{US-rail-stub}} (or {{Metro-stub}}, or {{{{Bus-stub}}), or {{{{Tram-stub}}). --CComMack 06:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Because WSS is a project, and projects do not set standards, a gulidline is no a standard, nor do they approve or should they approve or disapprove, if they do or did then that is creep, and moore on the way of everytnig needing proir apporval. secondly i find double tagging a unsitely and not effective, but i'll just go and delet it anyway. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism Watch

Just an FYI, their have been several vandalism attacks at both the Burholme neighborhood article and at the article for Fox Chase Cancer Center (FCCC) by a group, though i suppose it is only one person from the ip addresses that have been given, that opposes the expansion of FCCC and the agrement that have made with the Farimount Park Commision. The vandalism is in the form of an pov attack agins both the FCCC the Park Commision and both of their members. The person has been quiet for the past several days but i figure i give a heads up anyway. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:09, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Nearby Communities

Spikebrennan 19:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC) says: It would be nice to have a template, with little mini-maps, for the articles on surrounding communities (sort of like the mini-maps in county articles that show where in the state the county is located). The surrounding communities consist of: (i) incorporated municipalities such as cities, boros and townships (e.g., Media, Pennsylvania; and (ii) unincorporated areas such as neighborhoods, zip codes and so on (e.g., Wayne, Pennsylvania or Garrett Hill, Pennsylvania). What sort of information would be most helpful to have in these templates?

The project which is in the process of creating the things you want can be found at User:Seth Ilys/Dot Project, and it seems that they could use a hand, as it seems Pennsylvania is one of the last states slated to be completed. :-( There might be more information available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps; I haven't looked too carefully, so further digging may turn up further resources. --CComMack 05:29, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Proposed standards

I'd like to propose the following standards:

1. All neighborhood articles should be moved to [[Neighborhood Name, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania]], (for example, Manayunk, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) if they are not located there already.

But why? There is, so far as I am aware, only one place called Manayunk. I imagine the same could be said of at least some other neighborhoods. For those that are not unique, why the need for the ", Pennsylvania"? There is only one noteworthy city called Philadelphia, so why not just Center City, Philadelphia, and so forth. And do we have to have North Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania? Because that's just silly. john k 06:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

1. The station progression boxes at the bottom of SEPTA station articles should have the western station on the left, with "west" defined as "towards the PRR end" for Regional Rail lines, "towards Pattison" for the BSS, "towards 69th Street" for the MFSE, and "away from 69th Street" for Routes 100-102.

These seem like pretty straightforward affairs, so if there's no objection at the end of the week, I'll go ahead and start moving articles. --CComMack 05:42, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Meetup

Maybe this project would benefit from hosting a meetup? -- South Philly 15:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

WikiProjects (in general) don't hold Meetups, but at the recent (very successful) Wikipedia Meetup in Delaware, the idea of a Meetup in Philadelphia was pretty well-received. I would love for there to be one. --CComMack 20:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

A whole bunch of new Philly photos

As I hinted last week, I uploaded a whole bunch of images of Philadelphia and related topics. I got a most of the ideas from Wikipedia:Requested pictures and went out with my camera to satisfy them, plus I took a peek through my photo library and found a few others that might be useful.

There were too many to put on this page, including Center City, Boathouse Row, UPenn, and others, so see User:JVinocur/Images for the list.

I'm sure I'll get around to incorporating them in appropriate articles eventually, but I'd sure love some help with them. -- JVinocur 21:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Found this Небоскребы рядом с Муниципалитетом on the Russian language wikipedia. Any ideas on how to use it?Spikebrennan 17:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• ru:User:GK tramrunner RU is also User:GK tramrunner and the photo isimage:CityHall-Skyscrappers.JPG. --evrik 15:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Frank Rizzo

Hi, I grew up in Philly during the 1970s, so I thought I would take a stab at rewriting the Frank Rizzo article. It turned out to be a little longer than I thought, so I wanted to have other editors look at it. Because there a lot of changes and a POV check template on the article now, I put it on a subpage (Frank Rizzo/rewrite) rather than on the main article page. There aren't many quotes in the article, I was thinking of creating a Frank Rizzo Wikiquote page and linking to it from the article. I put this message on the Frank Rizzo talk page as well. RockinRob^Talk 21:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

• Neutral I don't know what to think. --South Philly 22:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Jim Gardner & Dave Roberts

Additional input would be valuable on the votes for deletion for Jim Gardner and Dave Roberts. Olessi 18:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• Okay--South Philly 22:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Award

What do you all think about creating an award for our wikiproject?

I think I'm going to list something hereWikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals. Comments? South Philly 02:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Sure, I have no problem with a barnstar for Wikiproject Philadelphia. Perhaps something with a Liberty Bell in it? danntm ^{T | C} 14:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• I'll place something on the proposal page. evrik 16:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Anyone else? South Philly 02:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Well, this sounds like a good idea. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 04:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • C'mon people, let's go get some support for our recognition. --evrik 13:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Assessment

We should, add the assessment tool. South Philly 02:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

• Any objections? --South Philly 03:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Wanna explain what you're talking about? Spikebrennan 03:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Assessment --South Philly 03:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• How is assement determined? The Philadelphia article is definitely not A-Class.Medvedenko 03:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It is subjective. We will have to learn as we go along. The biggest problem right now is tagging the article and portal pages with the wikiprojet templates. South Philly 04:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
    • This is an onerous task, but I've been helping on both the militray and scouting projects and think it's worth it. --evrik 13:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I added a whole bunch today.Spikebrennan 05:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• South Philly, its great you are trying to revive the Philly wikiproject, but you are not following the descriptions on the rating template. For example you rated Philadelphia Inquirer a Good Article, but that is only for articles deemed Good Articles in the same way a Featured Article is decided. The hugely succesful Tropical Cyclone wikiproject has other editors asses how the article should be rated. Something we could do. Medvedenko 19:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I know I did some wrong, but i wanted to have a full range of articles for when the bot crawled over the lisitings last night. I feel that the ratings, right now are less important than getting the pages tagged. --South Philly 00:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• The rating template ... still looks like it was 'borrowed' from the Boy Scouts. --evrik 20:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• I think I got rid of all the scouting references. Medvedenko 20:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I just ran out of time. We shuld eventually add our own samples. --South Philly 00:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal template

Hi. I realize you guys are trying to draw attention to Portal:Philadelphia, but I'm afraid that the portal template has been applied to far too many articles. A discussion this spring at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals came to the consensus that the template should only be applied to a handful of articles and categories. Currently, it's in use on over 300 Philadelphia-related articles. Please trim its usage at your earliest convenience. Thank you. - EurekaLott 02:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• I looked at the discussion you cited. It was very brief, non-binding, and not related to Philadelphia. I think we should continue tagging the articles as we have been doing. Have you asked other wikiprojects to do the same? --South Philly 03:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I disagree, this is clearly the accepted procedure with portal links. I do not know of any other portal that puts links on every related article. Medvedenko 03:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I know of at least three that have more than 500, but I'm not going to drop a dime on them. --South Philly 04:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• I spent a fair amount of time looking at the guidelines this morning. There are no guidelines as to the use of {{portalpar}}. Did I miss it? When I looked at Template:Portalpar I saw the following, "Use: This template is used to link an article to its related portal." This leads me to believe it is to be used widely. Could you please cite what policy you ar referencing? --evrik 16:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It clearly needs to be made policy, since the current recomendation is not working. Medvedenko 18:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, until it IS policy, then it is simply a difference of opinion. --evrik 19:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Since the last apparent discussion was in April, hopefully this disagreement will revive it. However, I don't think it should require policy to explain why a Philadelphia Portal link doesn't belong in articles like pretzel. Medvedenko 19:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Pretzel? You are making large generalizations based on one or two articles. Whether or not pretzel should have the portal is a different argument than what articles should have a portal link. If someone doesn't like that pretzel has the portal, bring it up on the talk page - don't try to create a policy covering all portals. FWIW ... we have pretzel listed under Category:Philadelphia cuisine and Philadelphia is mentioned in the article. --evrik 19:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm not the one who brought up policy. You and South Philly claim there is no policy as a defense to why you have every right to put these links on all these pages. Pretzel was one very obvious example to this overlinking. Medvedenko 19:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• I think we agree. --evrik 19:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Maybe we can go a middle way and impose are own restrictions? More lenient then the proposed portal one, but more strict then what is currently being done. Medvedenko 20:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This whole thing smacks of over-bureaucratization and instruction creep--South Philly 01:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

New Stub

Just created a beginner for Franklin Square. Would be great if anyone who knows more about it could spruce it up a bit. It did take a glaring red link of the main Philly page as well. The article needs a picture or two if anyone has one. Thanks--Looper5920 04:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Sports in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Per discussion on Talk:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, we should start a Sports in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania article so that most of the 'Sports' section from the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania article can be moved there. I would suggest having the new Sports article have subsections for (1) the big four professional sports teams, (2) college sports in Philadelphia, (3) other professional sports in Philadelphia (Wings, Kixx, Phantoms and so on), (4) annual spectator (i.e., other-than-participatory) sporting events associated with Philly such as the Penn Relays, Dad Vail Regatta, Army-Navy Game, Philadelphia International Championship (bike race), and so on, and (5) participatory and recreational sports activities (such as the Broad Street Run, crew clubs, and so on. The article could also contain references to the Curse of Billy Penn and the use of the musical theme from Rocky. Spikebrennan 22:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to User:BillFlis, the Sports in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania article is well-underway.Spikebrennan 02:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikiquote

To help move extra content off the Philadelphia page I created a wikiquote page for all quotes about Philadelphia. Medvedenko 03:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

SEPTA Article Name Standardization

On the to do list, it satates that one of the objectves is "Create SEPTA station/route article title standards." If no one minds, I have a few ideas bouncing around in my head, and I would like to get the ball rolling on establishing SEPTA article and route conventions.-- danntm ^T _C 14:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• Can you let us know what your ideas are before you implement them? --evrik 15:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• Oh, of course, that's why I brought it here to discuss and form a consensus. The general outline of my ideas follows largely from existing convention: SEPTA Regional Rail stations follow the form "Station Name (SEPTA station)", Broad Street Line stations follow the form "Station Name (BSL station)", and Norristown High Speed Line stops "Station Name (NHSL station)." The MFL stations are a bit more complicated, because they are currently devided between "Station name", "Station Name (SEPTA station)" and "Station Name (MFL station)." I favor resovling the MFL naming convention to "Station Name (MFL station)," to maintain consistency with the BSL and to avoid conflicts with BSL or Regional Rail stations. If that was not complicated enough, the major transportation centers (e.g. 69th Street Terminal, Frankford Transportation Center, Fern Rock Transportation Center, Suburban Station (Philadelphia), 30th Street Station (Philadelphia), Market East Station (Philadelphia)) would not have the line-specific disambiguating parentheticals, especially considering each of these transportation centers are served by multiple services.-- danntm ^T _C 16:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• Oh, I almost forgot, the Broad-Ridge Spur follows the form "Station Name (BRS station)", otherwise there would be a conflict between the defunct Spring Garden (BRS station) and the Spring Garden station on the BSL mainline. Additionally, Norristown Transportation Center and City Hall (SEPTA station) also should be exempt from the naming conventions becuase of there intermodal nature.-- danntm ^T _C 16:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• sounds okay by me ... --evrik 16:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• I just realized that this proposal does not cover the Subway-Surface Lines, which currently uses the form "Station Name (SEPTA station)." A form more consistent with the other lines would be "Station Name (Subway-Surface Station)." Of course, becase 15th Street is both a SSL and MFL station, it probably should remain at (SEPTA station). I also am going to post a link to this discussion on the project page to generate more discussion.-- danntm ^T _C 21:21, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• I moved this to all into a formalized proposal Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philadelphia/Strategy. Please feel free to comment on this proposal there.-- danntm ^T _C 22:43, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
  • City Hall station only serves one line and that is the Broad Street Line, not to be confused with the 15th St Station which connects to it, serving MFL and SSL. Therefore, I renamed it to City Hall (BSL station).

Tagging talk pages and assessing articles

Wikipedia Assessments within AWB. Click on the image to see it in better resolution

Hi. If you still have work to do tagging talk pages and assessing articles, my AWB plugin might be of interest to you.

The plugin has two main modes of operation:

• Tagging talk pages, great for high-speed tagging
• Assessments mode, for reviewing articles (pictured)

As of the current version, WikiProjects with simple "generic" templates are supported by the plugin without the need for any special programatic support by me. I've had a look at your project's template and you seem to qualify.

For more information see:

• About the plugin
• About support for "generic" WikiProject templates
• User guide
• About AWB (AutoWikiBrowser)

Hope that helps. If you have any questions or find any bugs please let me know on the plugin's talk page. --Kingboyk 14:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

NE Philly template

I wanted to add Olney into the list of neighborhoods on the Northeast Philadelphia template. Anyone know where that's located so I can edit it? Thanks... --Magic 17:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

It's already on the North Philadelphia template, so you should probably start a discussion first, but the Northeast one is at Template:NEPhila. You can tell by looking at the code while editing a page that contains the template (templates are in {{ }}). Hope this helps. --Galaxiaad 19:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah-ha! Of course... I don't know why I wanted to group Olney in NE Philly. Heh, I'm pretending this never happened. --Magic 06:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Delaware County and Upper Darby

I am not sure how to join this project. I can improve on the articles on towns in Delaware County and Upper Darby in particular. I am particularly able to help out w/r/t delaware county politics. I'm new to projects, so I'm sorry if this isn't where i'm supposed to put this comment. ChrissMari 02:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 19:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Mayors of Philadelphia

How about a side project creating articles for all of the Mayors of Philadelpha? I think it's unfortunate it hasn;t already been done. If anyone wants to get something started please let me know on my talkpage. -FateSmiled&DestinyLaughed 16:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Upcoming NYC Meetup

You wanted to know when the next meetup was being organized in New York City. Plan for Saturday, 9 December 2006. While you're at it. Come help us decide on a restaurant. See: Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC. Spread the word. Thanks. —ExplorerCDT 22:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

New Stub: McGillin's Olde Ale House

Just created a new stub about Philadelphia's oldest continuously run pub, McGillin's Olde Ale House. I'm currently in contact with the pub's management to extend the list of historical paraphernalia. But if there's anything else one can add to the stub, go for it. I'm not 100% certain what things are pertinent to a page about a historical pub. --Coplan 23:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks! --evrik ^(talk) 02:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Its a good start. Don't forget to cite your sources. Medvedenko 22:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

When to use Neighborhood templates...

As a new participant in the WikiProject Philadelphia, I'm trying to update philadelphia related pages. But I'm a bit confused as to when we should be using the Neighborhood templates. Do we use them on landmarks and parks that are within a neighborhood? For example, Franklin Square, Rittenhouse Square and Independance mall are all in Center City, would I then use the CCPhila template? Or is the template reserved for neighborhood descriptions? --Coplan 22:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

• I dunno. --evrik ^(talk) 02:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• I was just sticking the neighborhood templates at the bottom of pages where the article pertains to certain areas. For example, an article about Rittenhouse Square or Independance Mall would benefit from the CCPhila template. If they aren't to be used for this purpose, then I will clean these out. But perhaps we should create a template for the sideboxes where one of the fields is a district/location. Just my $0.02 --Coplan 03:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I think using them for neighborhoods within neighborhoods (like Rittenhosue Square) is alright, but I wouldn't over do it. Medvedenko 22:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Joining

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia and I would like to join this project. I am a board member of the Historical Society of Frankford and I research the history of Northeast Philadelphia, which includes my pet project and main role at the society The Frankford Yellow Jackets. Do I just throw my name up here or is the a process? Thanks! IanBlade 19:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• just put your name up (and welcome) ! --evrik ^(talk) 19:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Philadelphia Anti-Graffiti Network

Created an article on this and added the tag, not sure if I missing some cats or if you guys review the article, figured I would drop it here to give everyone a heads up. --NuclearZer0 01:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I noticed it was evaluated as a stub so I added some more content and merged the Mural Arts Project article into it. --NuclearZer0 17:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The Mural Arts Program hasn't been a part of the Anti Graffit network since 1996. They should still be seperate, or the very least NAP should not be listed under divisons. The article was definitely not a stub when it was rated. Medvedenko 19:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

From what I read on the Philadelphia.Gov website PAGN became a larger program with Mural Arts under it, though not administratively. IF you goto the Philadelphia anti graffiti website it defines the PAGNetwork as having 3 sub parts, one of those is Mural Arts Program, however I have read the news reports and the MAP program that states they were given their own budgets etc. Its also interesting to note that both Graffiti Abatement Team and Mural Arts Project get to take kids that were caught vandalizing property and use them for programs. So if MAP is seperate or PAGN just became an umbrella term or umbrella program I am not sure. The PAGN was famous throughout the country so it would be odd for it to be dissolved wholesale. Anyway what I go by is the philly gov site as they would know best. --NuclearZer0 19:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Just a followup, perhaps PAGN stopped being a program and became an actual network, a filter of sorts for activities related to Graffiti that the city sorts everything through. --NuclearZer0 19:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Historical Society of Frankford

I am slowly stepping into a role of Program Director at the Historical Society of Frankford, actually the president told me I am going to be so whether I like it or not :) Anyways, I would like to extend an invitation out to any fellow Wikipedians who would have an interest in speaking on any NorthEast Philadelphia topic. Our monthly meetings are the second Tuesday of the month and most talks are from 45 minutes to whenever. If you have interest feel free to contact me.

IanBlade 16:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Geotagging and Google Earth: an end-of-year collaboration

If you check out the new version of Google Earth, you'll find a new layer called "Geographic Web", which includes a layer of placemarks culled from geodata in Wikipedia articles. It's very nifty; check it out when you get the chance. However, it points out a huge gap in out current coverage here at WikiProject Philadelphia (and, indeed, throughout Wikipedia); not nearly as many of our articles are geotagged as could be. So, I propose that we have a mass collaboration, starting now and running through the end of the year, to geotag as many Philly-related articles as we can. If everyone tags about five currently untagged articles every editing day between now and December 31... well, not to be clichéd about it, but that adds up to a lot. To add geodata to an article, use {{coor title d}} (for most locations), {{Geolinks-US-buildingscale}} (for landmarks large enough to be distinctive from the air), or {{Geolinks-US-hoodscale}} (for neighborhoods and compact suburban towns); for more options, see Category:Coordinates templates, but those three should suffice for most purposes.

So, what say you all? I'm looking forward to putting the places I pass by on a daily basis on the map, literally.  :-) Happy editing, CComMack (t–c) 21:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you add the tags to a couple of articles (buildings, neighborhoods, etc.) and let us know which ones, so that we can see how it works? Can you also give us a step-by-step explanation as to how you obtained the coordinate information to add to the article? Spikebrennan 22:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Roosevelt Mall

Someone marked up the Roosevelt Mall article with a proposal that it be deleted. I think it's noteworthy enough to be an encyclopedia article, and if anyone in this wikiproject has an opinion on the matter, I would suggest leaving a comment on the talk page there. Coemgenus 03:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Your template

Just thought I should tell you, with your template, it says "Edit the article attached to this page", when that links to the talk page of the article and not the actual article. Just some food for thought from an observer. --Borgarde 13:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hi. I'm not sure how this is all organized, but I just started a category for Philadelphia writers. I just wanted to bring it to y'all's attention in case you know any writers to add to that list or are editing any Philadelphian's pages that you think should be added.QuizzicalBee 03:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Phillyhistory.org

Hey, I heard about http://www.Phillyhistory.org on 1060 AM this morning. That's a gold mine of photos if the license is compatible. I'm inquiring about it at Wikipedia_talk:Images#Phillyhistory.org ccwaters 19:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi all, I saw that you guys are editing the Bill Cosby article. Big Cosby fan here. Just wanted to let you know that he recently launched his official website at www.billcosby.com, in case you wanted to include such in his article. Thanks for your efforts.

Criminal Justice/Law Enforcement in Philadelphia

Working in the law enforcement field in Philadelphia, I've got a boatload of good ideas, a good amount of free time, and a Nikon D50. I wrote the First Judicial District of Pennsylvania article, but I'm trying to expand that as much as possible with sources and some relevant numbers. Now that I finally got the D50, I've already uploaded a bunch of photos for unrelated topics. I was hoping there is a some sort of request/to-do list for photos in Philadelphia. This Wednesday, ironically, I have Jury Duty and will use some of my free time to take pictures of the CJC (needs an article I think), some famous statues, etc. Anything else that comes to mind that's in Center City/Northeast Philly?

Oh, and I have joined the group.  :) RegBarc 21:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Washington Square West

I just made a comment on Talk:Washington Square West about the definition of the neighborhood and its divisions. Because I am not a Philly native, input would be appreciated. Runnerupnj 00:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Eakins

I have just attempted a sizable expansion of Thomas Eakins, which has been rated B Class on the quality scale. Please feel free to offer input as to whether it is time to revisit the rating. JNW 03:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:SEPTA-stub

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Parkwood, Philadelphia

Actually have two requests, or should I say pleas for help. The first would be what is necessary to upgrade this article from stub status to A class? Since I am the author, I already believe it is A status! The second is any and all help would be appreciated. Thank you. Shoessss 00:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Buck Buck

Can you tell me how the article has to do with Philadelphia? Just wondering...Violask81976 01:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Tag removed. Alphageekpa 12:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

John Barton King FAC!

Hey folks. Thanks to all the project members that helped bring this article to its current state. I've nominated it as an FAC and would encourage you to help in reaching a consensus at its subpage. I think that this Philadelphian–the greatest American cricketer ever–deserves this FA status. Thanks a lot.--Eva ^bd 14:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

William Penn Charter School

I have just reassesed [[]] for the schools project. It was set as Start/Low. This is the assessment for your project too. This is one one of the oldest schools in the US.... Is there a chance that you project might reassess .... even better give it a help towards a B ? Victuallers 22:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Bethlehem Pike

I have written the entire or most of the road's history. But if I want it to be a GA, it'll need some photos but I'm not from the Philadelphia area and I would like some images on this historic route. Thanks. -- JA10 ^{T · C} 06:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Information on the May issue is important, is true, and has references

Do not remove this info just because of marketing ploys Alfred Legrand 19:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

City template

New template is at Template:Philadelphia. For ideas for improvement, see Template:New York City and Template:Chicago and Template:Los Angeles. Spikebrennan 15:18, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Philadelphie

Hello, i search someone who lives in Philadelphia, and i have seen that you participate to the WikiProject Philadelphia ! So i think, perhaps, you can answer to my question. No, my wish ... I work on the french wiki on M. Night Shyamalan, and, there aren't lots of photos ! And, this director shoot all his films on Philadelphia, so, it's perhaps possible to take some photos of his house, or of the place of the film. For exemple the very famous street where Sixth Sens where shooted ! This is the pedestrian Streets. For The Village, this is here.
If you can take photos, can you contact me on fr:user:stef48, best regards, stef48 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.253.39.216 (talk) 16:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Geolinks discussion affects guideline

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Help needed for licensing rights of SEPTA map

I've posted a map of the Southeastern_Pennsylvania_Transportation_Authority system on its page, and I don't know what to say about its copyright status - it's supposed to be deleted within a week. I got it from http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~srini/courses/cs1322/class14/septa.jpg, but the source of the map is SEPTA itself, copyright 1998. I've seen variations of this map many times before, including previously on the SEPTA Wikipedia page. It seems innocent enough to me - after all probably most major transit systems have their official maps on a Wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DisgruntledWaterlooStudent (talk • contribs) 02:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

You should probably let the image be deleted. The image is copyrighted (by SEPTA) and copyrighted material can only be used as Fair Use. However, Fair Use is only acceptable when a free alternative can not be obtained, and since this is a map it can be recreated by an user in a graphics program and uploaded up here with a free license. This has been done with other transits systems, such as the London Underground and the Manila Light Rail Transit System. Medvedenko 02:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

List_of_sites_of_interest_in_Philadelphia

Some discussion is needed on the criteria for inclusion. Any input would be appreciated.Talk:List_of_sites_of_interest_in_Philadelphia Mdbrownmsw (talk) 21:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiPhilly.com

I just signed up for an account over at http://www.wikiphilly.com, which bills itself as The Philadelphia Encyclopedia. It might be useful for content that would not meet certain criteria here on Wikipedia (for instance, content that might not be "notable" enough). Maybe some other WikiProject Philadelphians might be interested enough to sign up or edit at http://www.wikiphilly.com as well. --RunnerupNJ 02:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Philadelphia Pepper Pot

I need help expanding this article. I'm looking for good sources about the West Indian origins, its use by Quakers, and its supposed re-invention by Christopher Ludwick at Valley Forge. There seems to be a lot of legend and little in the way of facts, but I'm hoping someone can point me to some good historical sources. Otherwise, please jump right in and help out. Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 05:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Turtle Rock Lighthouse

There needs to be a new image of the Turtle Rock Lighthouse. The current one only shows the top one of the light. Anyone with a photo out there of the lighthouse that falls under fair use or public domain? I think it would make the article look nice. Mrld (talk) 16:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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South Street

I'm looking for help at hippies and Hippie (etymology) to document the song "South Street" by the Orions as an early use of the word "hippies", as in "where do all the hippies meet?, South Street, South Street". An editor is looking for documentation. Pustelnik (talk) 13:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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Strawberry Mansion, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

I moved this comment from Template:WikiProject Philadelphia, giving the unsigned user the benefit of the doubt that it may be appropriate for discussion here

The article on the Strawberry Mansion Area is vital in telling the Philadelphia story. It clearly showed the numerous migrations of the wealthy and affluent from neighborhoods when Blacks were permitted to move into the communities. Although intergration was preached and established by law the many diverse cultures that inhabited Philadelphia overtly displayed the desire to operate with sepratist mentalities, making segragation an unspoken priority of northern life.

I was raised in the neighborhood during very turbulent times. I recall the stings life could lay upon impoverished and disenfranchised individuals. I remember reading the Philadelphia Daily News and the stories portraying the carnage and despair of living in what amounted to war zones. Yet, despite the times, the heart of the people yearned for better futures for their off-spring. In the midst of all that was portrayed in negative light, rays of hope shone through making the despair of darkness flee.

It was a neighborhood sadly like so many others across America but the people from many generations have risen above their plight. Adversity consumed some but it also made many stronger and in that process the city stronger. Among the prominent people of Philadelphia stand some from that once riches to rags neighborhood. They do not stand in a class by themselves but I am certain that when the roll is eventually called it will be a very short hail. Speak to those who live there and those who have managed to overcome to get a better perspective of the neighborhood, it's rich past and promising future.

--—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.91.188 (talk) 06:42, 23 March 2008

Photo needed.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 13:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Philadelphia Flyers

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Photo request

Can somebody take a picture for Thaddeus Kosciuszko National Memorial? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll second that. And it would be pretty cool if the composition was similar to the current photo, for a nice before/after kinda deal. If no one else gets to it, I'll try the next time I'm in the area. I don't really get to Olde City much, cobblestones are murder for me to get around. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure, the next time I'm going on an Old City run, I'll be sure to bring my camera along with me. Sorry for the delay everyone, I've been busy. Sab (talk) 10:25, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Photo request #2

Can someone get a picture of Mill Creek? Specifically, I'd like a picture of Dove Lake (currently a red link) to use in The Swimming Hole. Raul654 (talk) 06:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Did it myself. Raul654 (talk) 18:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Philadelphia Gas Works

There is a new article about Philadelphia Gas Works but it is woefully lacking in recent information and in citations. If you are interested in Philadelphia, please help! --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

PGW potential independent sources

• PGW Study summary

[Study Summary, Pew Trusts]

• PGW Study PDF

[Study by the Pew Trusts (PDF)]

• PGW some history

[of PGW]

• PGW some history, also diversity info.

[History diversity information]

More information available at Google. No doubt the Philly newspapers would have more recent information, especially about rates and governance. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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PA Roads needs help

I have a request of the project. Right now, the highways in Pennsylvania (under project WP:Pennsylvania Roads), and well, it is almost dead. We need help expanding over 350 stubs, and it would be very helpful, as some of the more important stuff needs help too. If you could possibly give input, ping me on my talk, or post here. Thanks.3 1/2 years of Mitch32 10:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania Roads is the link for this project. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:34, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Alan Butkovitz

The article for Alan Butkovitz, the current Philadelphia City Controller, could use some work from someone more familiar with Philly politics. I have expanded some of his career in the State House, but the article needs more on his current position, like accomplishments ([2][3]) and electoral history.--Blargh29 (talk) 04:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree that his article needs more information, but I need to make an effort to have the appropriate inline citations. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Photo req: China Airlines office in Willow Grove, PA

Would someone mind photographing the China Airlines office in Willow Grove, PA?

• It is at: 2300 Computer AVE. Building 39G, Willow Grove, PA 19090, U.S.A. - It seems to be in a standalone building [4] WhisperToMe (talk) 03:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy 233rd Birthday to the United States!

Yes, Happy Birthday! However, reading the Philadelphia article, no one would know that we celebrate here, nor would they learn more at Independence Day (United States). I am sure there is plenty more to say, and WikiProject Philadelphia members can do it. I will check into articles on the Centennial celebration, the Bicentennial, and I know there was a celebration for 150 years, too, but maybe there is no article. The Declaration of Independence was here, the Constitution was written here, and we had the federal government here, and plenty more. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

See Independence celebrations in Philadelphia that need photos and information. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:01, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

• Centennial Exposition
• Sesquicentennial Exposition
• United States Bicentennial

eastwick

Hi, I lived there as a child in the 50's we left in 63 when the redevelopment authority took our house. The lot where it stood at 74th and Chelwynde is vacant to this day. Your research and observations are on target. Yes it was a fully integrated neighborhood and we all lived as neighbors right down to the guy who hauled scrap for a living. It really was a shame. It would be great to find some pictures of the area. We had a farm market and even had a person who delivered eggs to our door. It was a quiet place and there were many marshy areas where we played with tadpoles and turtles. Most of that was filled in and houses built on it. Thank you for doing this research. If I can be of help in any way please don't hesitate to ask. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.133.43 (talk) 00:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

You can find historical images here at PhillHistory.org Medvedenko (talk) 03:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Request

I have an unusual request. I want a copy of Thomas Eakins' portrait of Dr. Charles Lester Leonard for use in the List of works by Thomas Eakins article (#296). According to this (page 4), it is currently hanging in Dr. Stanley Baum's office in radiology department at in the University of Pennsylvania Medical Center. Would someone in the area be willing to get the necessary permissions, go there, and photograph it? Raul654 (talk) 04:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR for article Franklin B. Gowen

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Louis H. Carpenter

The article Louis H. Carpenter has passed GA status and an A-Class review suggests some copy-editting work. My American has been influenced by British English and two other languages. Any help is appreciated to get this article up to A/FA class status. LHC was raised and died in Philly. He won the Medal of Honor during his 38 year military career. Thank you in advance! Jrcrin001 (talk) 06:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Northeast Philadelphia

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Pennsylvania Intergovernmental Cooperation Authority (PICA)

An article on Pennsylvania Intergovernmental Cooperation Authority (PICA) is really needed, since PICA has to approve any city budget for Philadelphia, and right now the situation is critical. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia Sun Oct 4!

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New Pennsylvania government stubs

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A decision was reached to create lists of municipal authorities in each county, rather than a flood of stub articles. To see the various county lists, see Category:Municipal authorities in Pennsylvania and to see the Philadelphia list, see List of municipal authorities in Philadelphia. Anyone interested in Philadelphia government should look at the list and create articles for red links, especially for those agencies with an official web site, which makes starting the article easier. Please do not do any copyright violations by copying information directly, and try to find other reliable sources beyond the official web site of the agency.

Template double tagging

I am concerned that {{WikiProject Philadelphia}} automatically tags Philadelphia-related articles for the WikiProject Pennsylvania. There are lots of examples, including Camden, New Jersey, where the page is appropriate for the WP:PHILLY, but not for the WP:PENNSYLVANIA. I think the template should be altered to either remove the automatic WP:PENNA command or to add a Pennsylvania = yes parameter.--Blargh29 (talk) 15:39, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I have removed Pennsylvania and sometimes Philadelphia templates from South Jersey articles, so more Pennsylvania additions are not a good thing. Who can make this change? --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:53, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I just did it:[5]. Hope that worked.--Blargh29 (talk) 15:58, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Article tagging and autoassessing bot

I will soon place a bot request that will add the {{WikiProject Philadelphia}} tag to articles within this list of Philadelphia-related categories: User:Blargh29/Subcats of Category:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (I have already undertaken a similar effort at WP:PENNA.) I need a few project members to look through that list for categories that are not Philadelphia-related. Remember that WP:PHILLY includes the city proper, as well as the surrounding counties. Also, feel free to add some categories, if they are missing.--Blargh29 (talk) 05:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Importance=??? Count

Why do I now see over 1,400 unrated articles, when the table says 113, after I have made a continuing effort, with others, to get the number of unassessed and unrated articles down to a reasonable level? Something has changed, but what? --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

That would be #Article tagging and autoassessing bot... Note that the bot can be programmed to set the importance automatically, if you separate User:Blargh29/Subcats_of_Category:Philadelphia,_Pennsylvania into "default low" "default mid" "default high" importance sections. FYI there's just over 2000 left to tag as of this writing. –xeno^talk 14:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Volunteers for project

Lifelong Philadelphia area resident, university trained history teacher, available for open projects at WikiPhiladelphia Richard Harnett "Dick" Bloom 13:19, 12 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbbloom (talk • contribs)

RfC: East Falls: Are these people notable?

No mention of "notable gay rights activist Patrick Krimm" or "well respected blogger Count Malachi" on google. Is this self promotion? Need citations. Suggest for deletion from East Falls, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Gavin.s (talk) 18:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

This doesn't need an RfC, a comment on the talk page is sufficient. I've removed those people as well as the writer/divorce mediator - google doesn't show much of anything notable on them so no need to include them. --ImGz (t/c) 18:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons

The WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons (UBLPs) aims to reduce the number of unreferenced biographical articles to under 30,000 by June 1, primarily by enabling WikiProjects to easily identify UBLP articles in their project's scope. There were over 52,000 unreferenced BLPs in January 2010 and this has been reduced to 32,665 as of May 16. A bot is now running daily to compile a list of all articles that are in both Category:All unreferenced BLPs and have been tagged by a WikiProject. Note that the bot does NOT place unreferenced tags or assign articles to projects - this has been done by others previously - it just compiles a list.

Your Project's list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Unreferenced BLPs. As of May 17 you have approximately 50 articles to be referenced, a 10.7% reduction from last week. Great work! The list of all other WikiProject UBLPs can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/WikiProjects.

Your assistance in reviewing and referencing these articles is greatly appreciated. If you have any questions, please don't hestitate to ask either at WT:URBLP or at my talk page. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 17:32, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Photo request

There needs to be a photo representing the State Correctional Institution – Graterford - There is a sign stating the facility's presence located at the intersection of Graterford Road and Perkiomen Creek Road in Skippack Township, Montgomery County. See the Google maps view of the sign - This is not actually on the prison grounds, so it shouldn't be a problem getting a photo of the sign. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:39, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Collaborative project with the Philadelphia Museum of Art

The Philadelphia Museum of Art wants to start a collaborative project with Wikipedians. See this Raul654 (talk) 16:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Relevant AFD - Steve Eichel

• Steve Eichel

Please see discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Eichel. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 22:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Italian Americans in Philadelphia

If anybody wants sources for writing about Italian Americans in Philadelphia:

• "Italian Immigrant Family Histories." Historical Society of Philadelphia
• Juiliani, Richard. Building Little Italy. University of Pennsylvania Press.
• "Aspects of Italian Immigration to Philadelphia." JSTOR.
• "The Changing Face of Immigrants in Philadelphia during the 20th Century: An Examination of the Italian Immigrant Experience" AllAcademic.

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:12, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Improving my articles

Here are six articles about a variety of Philadelphia subjects that I created. I am posting this list to invite other editors interested in Philadelphia to make improvements.

• Fairmount Park Art Association
• Philadelphia Artists Equity
• Philadelphia Aurora
• Philadelphia Parking Authority
• Philadelphia Redevelopment Authority
• Port-Folio

--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Liberty Bell at FAC

It could use reviews; I hope anyone interested will weigh in at the FAC, here.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

A Philadelphia cemetery, but which?

Commons:File:Soldier's home "mustered out," Philadelphia, from Robert N. Dennis collection of stereoscopic views.jpg was part of a collection of c. 1860s stereo cards of Philadelphia cemeteries. Unlike the others, it doesn't name the cemetery clearly. If someone can add that information to the description of this (and to Commons:File:Soldier's home "mustered out," Philadelphia, from Robert N. Dennis collection of stereoscopic views.png, another format for the same image) it would be helpful. Title suggests it might have been the cemetery of a "soldiers' home", but that's still pretty vague unless someone can specifically identify the institution. - Jmabel | Talk 04:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Philadelphia articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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We would like to ask you to review the Philadelphia articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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A consideration for cross project consolidation of talk page templates

I have started a conversation here about the possibility of combining some of the United States related WikiProject Banners into {{WikiProject United States}}. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions please take a moment and let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 20:12, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wikipedia Day

I will be going to the Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wikipedia Day on January 15th, and I would welcome hearing from anyone from Philadelphia considering going. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next

Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See Wikipedia:U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.

The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 19:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Wiki/Sociology meetup in Philadelphia?

I'll be in Philly in late February, and perhaps some other Wikipedians from WikiProject Sociology will, too, for the ESS conference. I am thinking about organizing a meetup, and perhaps we could have a joint Sociology-Philadelphia projects meetup? See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sociology#ESS_2011 for details on the sociology side (and note that it may be that I am the only member of the project coming your way...). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

The ESS conference is at the Sheraton Society Hill, 1 Dock Street, near 2nd and Walnut Streets, February 24-27, 2011. If Philadelphia Wikipedians are to do a meetup, we need a place with WiFi and food, and a meeting room if there are enough of us, and we need to agree on the exact date and time. February 25th is Friday, we could meet that evening, or sometime over the weekend. What do others suggest? I would want a modestly priced restaurant, not easy in Society Hill, and preferably with a meeting room. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Walking a little shouldn't be a problem; in Pittsburgh, any restaurant will do, as long as we can get a place where we can get several seats and volume low enough for us to talk :) You may want to update Wikipedia:WikiProject_Philadelphia#Philadelphia_Meetups, add it to Wikipedia:Meetup and get a geonotice out. I will be looking forward to meeting you guys! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:14, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Is WiFi needed? I would want it. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

WiFi is always good :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I will look for a place to meet. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Inactive

Seeing no replies here to my or other comments, I am beginning to think that this project is inactive. If nobody argues against it, I will tag this project as inactive in a little while. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

• Well, this shouldn't be inactive. Let people at the Pennsylvania and New Jersey projects that they need to respond to stuff in here. Also send messages to known active contributors in Philly. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

This project is not inactive. I am going to post about a meetup late in February on this talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

• Glad to see this project is not dead; it is the first project that managed to surprise me like that in a while. If you want to reanimate it, my personal favorites include a roll-call and a newsletter; both invite posting to all editors who are members, or use userboxes, or have related Wikipedia editor categories, and asking them to confirm membership and/or join. I see you use article alerts, try signing for cleanup, new article and most popular article reports. See WP:POLAND and WP:SOCIOLOGY (the projects I take care of) for how this stuff is incorporated into our pages. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

We have had photo meetups in the Spring, but nothing recently, and certainly nothing on the scale of the NYC meetups, which I have attended twice. Are you from Pittsburgh? I have been working on Pittsburgh articles. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I am currently residing there, yes. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:14, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Photo requests

Hi! Here are some Philadelphia-area photo requests:

• China Airlines Philadelphia Mini Office - 2300 Computer AVE. Building 39G, Willow Grove, PA 19090, U.S.A.
• USA 3000 headquarters - 335 Bishop Hollow Rd Newtown Square, PA 19073
• SCI Graterford - a sign stating the facility's presence located at the intersection of Graterford Road and Perkiomen Creek Road in Skippack Township, Montgomery County - Please photograph the sign only
• Genuardi's headquarters - Bentwood Executive Campus - Germantown Pike and Old Arch Road in East Norriton Township, Pennsylvania - 301 E Germantown Pike, Norristown, PA 19401-6517, United States
• Acme Markets headquarters - 75 Valley Stream Parkway, Malvern, PA 19355
• Headquarters of Wawa, Inc. - Red Roof, Baltimore Pike Wawa, Pennsylvania 19063 (Map)
  • Image of the main Wawa building done: File:Wawa Red Roof.JPG
  • Image of the entrance sign is still requested - Wawa is done

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 20:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Society Hill Philadelphia Mini-Meetup

Sheraton Society Hill, 1 Dock Street, near 2nd and Walnut Streets, Saturday, February 26, 2011, at 6 PM, departing for dinner 6:15 PM. Wikipedians will meet in the lobby near the large table with two computers, and will go off to a restaurant within walking distance for a modestly priced meal, and for dessert and coffee to a free WiFi location, to be determined. Sign up below if you can join us:

Attendees:

• DThomsen8 (talk) 12:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
• Smallbones (talk) 22:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in Philadelphia

Hey everyone. Over at List of tallest buildings in Philadelphia, a featured list, there's a highly outdated section located here. Could anyone with a strong knowledge of the subject help update this section? Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Declaration of independence

There is presently a debate over whether the list article Declaration of independence ought to include a hatnote pointing specifically to the United States Declaration of Independence. Those in favor argue that historical, demographic, and practical factors justify this treatment, while those in opposition argue that no country's document should receive special treatment under any circumstances. I am bringing the discussion to your attention because United States Declaration of Independence is included in this wikiproject. Please see here if you are interested in weighing in on the matter. Thank you. —Bill Price (nyb) 17:45, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikinic

We should all get together at a Wikinic on Saturday June 25, 2011 (rain date Sunday June 26) somewhere in Fairmount Park. I'd hope that this can be fairly informal, enjoying byo picnic lunches and the company of fellow Wikipedians. If anybody wants a bit more substance perhaps we could take an excursion to some of the historic houses (map) in the park or maybe even the Please Touch Museum and gather some info or photos for an article or two. There might be some substantive discussion on next year's Wikimania in Washington DC, or on the possibility of getting a WALRUS organization in Philly. But I hope none of these activities would get in the way of just having an enjoyable picnic in the park.

Sign up below if you'd like more info. Any suggestions - especially for where to meet in the park - are welcomed. BTW other Wikipedia groups are picnicking on the same date - something about Midsummer Night. See Wikipedia:Wiknic. Smallbones (talk) 19:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Unless anybody has a better idea, I'll post invitations for 12 noon at the Azalea Garden, 39.9680°N 75.1830°W / 39.9680; -75.1830 right behind the Museum of Art, near the boathouses, waterworks, etc. Parking might be a problem in the area, even though there is FREE 2-hour parking right next to it (but you'll never find an open space!). Smallbones (talk) 16:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikinic is ON, 1-5 pm. Bring enough food for yourself +. Smallbones (talk) 15:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Wiknic

GLAM Wiki events on July 22-23 in Baltimore's Mount Vernon Neighborhood

Join us at the Walters Art Museum on July 23

Please join us next weekend for GLAM Baltimore 2011 --- a series of two events organized by Baltimore Heritage on July 22-23 to build relationships between cultural heritage organizations, archives and museums and the Wikipedian community in Baltimore and Maryland. We'll start on Friday, July 22 with a happy hour at the Midtown Yacht Club in Baltimore's historic Mount Vernon neighborhoods. On the morning of Saturday, July 23, we'll meet at the Walters Art Museum for an introduction to GLAM Wiki partnerships around the country and break out into smaller groups to develop new ideas for projects. I know this is a bit of a distance but we'd welcome any Philadelphia Wikipedians or GLAM folks that like to come down and join us.

You can sign up and find additional details on our meetup page or on the Baltimore Heritage website where you can also use a form to RSVP for the July 22 Happy Hour or the July 23 GLAM Wiki partnerships meeting. I hope you can join us! --Eli.pousson (talk) 20:09, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

List of public art in Philadelphia

For those interested in public art, there is now the above article. Feel free to add photos and references, check coordinates, etc. You can even add artworks, though personally, I don't add artworks unless it is something special or can be photographed (e.g. pre-1923) - there are 700-1700 public artworks in Philly depending on how you count. With about 30 listings and 20 photos, this is already one of the biggest public artworks list in the US. Smallbones (talk) 01:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

United States Declaration of Independence article needs to be adopted

I have performed a review at Talk:United States Declaration of Independence/GA1. However, the nominator has exercised his WP:RTV. The article needs someone to adopt it and address my concerns in order to regain its GA status. I will allow seven days for someone to step forward.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject

I have proposed Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Pennsylvania at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/University of Pennsylvania. I encourage others to take part in the discussion and join the project. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Joey Venuto death

Joe or Joey Venuto died of a heart attack on August 23, 2011. Considering his philanthropic activities and his famous (or notorious) Speak English sign, I think he should have a separate article from his place of business, Geno's Steaks. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Photo request: Philadelphia High School for Girls

Would anyone mind photographing the Philadelphia High School for Girls? It is at 1400 W Olney in Philly Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 03:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Okay, so now we have a shot of the gym! If possible, other shots would be nice too :) WhisperToMe (talk) 16:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Sources on Philly schools

Here are some sources on Philly school NRHP statuses and architecture:

• "95 CITY SCHOOLS ENTER THE BOOKS AS HISTORIC PLACES." The Philadelphia Inquirer. January 10, 1989. B01 Local.
• "PASSEL OF SCHOOLS JOINS HISTORIC LIST." The Philadelphia Inquirer. February 7, 1987. B05 Local.

WhisperToMe (talk) 14:28, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Philadelphia school boundary maps

Hi! I notice that the Philly school district put up zoning maps that indicate what areas are zoned to which schools. The problem is, they are under https, so web.archive.org will not archive them (trying to make the URL an "http" breaks the link - the page will only load if it is https)

The solution: using webcitation.org to archive every single boundary map

So, here is Talk:School_District_of_Philadelphia/Maps - The effort to do so is underway

With the maps we can match Philadelphia neighborhoods to their zoned schools.

WhisperToMe (talk) 15:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Cambodians in Philly

Hi! I found a source which may help explain aspects of the Cambodians in Philadelphia:

• Hornberger, Nancy H. "Language Policy, Language Education, Language Rights: Indigenous, Immigrant, and International Perspectives." Language in Society, Vol. 27, No. 4 (Dec., 1998), pp. 439-458
• It also discusses Maori, Welsh, languages of California, Shawandawa in the Amazon of Brazil, Quechua in the Andes Mountains, languages in "Indian' communities of South Africa

WhisperToMe (talk) 08:50, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

99 Percent Declaration

I recently created the 99 Percent Declaration article, and now it's been nominated for deletion and rescue. I have lots of possible sources on the talk page, but I would feel more comfortable if there were other editors. Would you please help improve it? Or at least chime in on the deletion discussion or respond to the questions on the talk page? Thank you. Dualus (talk) 20:02, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Additional photo requests

Would anyone mind photographing:

• Holy Redeemer Chinese Catholic Church and School - 915 Vine Street Philadelphia, PA 19107-1403
  • Please take at least one photo each of the church and school components!
• McCall School - 325 S. 7th Street • Philadelphia, PA • 19106
• FACTS Charter School - 1023 Callowhill Street Philadelphia, PA 19123
• Independence Branch Library - 18 S. 7th Street Philadelphia, PA 19106 - File:Free Library of Philadelphia Independence Branch.jpg

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 20:50, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Meeting

Only events in 2011 are listed, and they are treated as future. Is there a real meetups page, or a prospect of a meeting? Jim.henderson (talk) 23:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Proposed standards

I agree with the proposal for the SEPTA station boxes. I am a former Philadelphia resident, and I have excesive knowledge of the SEPTA system. As long as the destinations (e.g. "To: Glenside) are retained, I'm fine with this. --Miketherailfan 04:38, 8 November 2005 (EST)

Life in Philadelphia

I want help with a page I started about a cartoon from the late 1920's called Life in Philadelphia. The series was drawn by E.W. Clay and depicts Philadelphians(mostly free black men and women) in a satiric way. I believe this is important to Philadelphia's black community's history and would like some monitoring of the development of the page.

Camipadilla (talk) 02:17, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

• Hi! I added the page to several WikiProjects, which will look at the article WhisperToMe (talk) 17:57, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about that one! I added that one to all the WikiProjects too WhisperToMe (talk) 18:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Philadelphia Doll Museum

I created an article about the Philadelphia Doll Museum, and I would appreciate if you could oversee the progression of the article. I believe that the museum has a special place in the city, and holds a special place in the history of African Americans. User:eg480510 (talk) 17:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Need help on Important Philadelphia Article

Hello everyone. I've been working recently on an article that may be of interest to those working on this project. Its called Isabella (slave ship), and it's about the ship that brought the first slaves to the port of Philadelphia in the 17th century. If anyone could help me expand on this stub, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! 5hane2012 (talk) 18:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)5hane20125hane2012 (talk) 18:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Seeking Help with Philadelphia College Basketball Article

Hello, I'm currently working on an article for the 2003-2004 Saint Joseph's Hawks Mens Basketball and I was wondering if you were at all interested in helping me add to it. The url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003%E2%80%9304_Saint_Joseph%27s_Hawks_men%27s_basketball_team , thanks for the help. 5hane2012 (talk) 17:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)5hane20125hane2012 (talk) 17:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Philadelphia Museum of Art

We've started a GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives, and Museums) project at Wikipedia:GLAM/Philadelphia Museum of Art. This should be exciting! Please sign up or contribute however you can.

Smallbones (talk) 05:04, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Townships

What is the naming convention for Philadelphia Townships. Asylum Township doesn't need disambiguation, but the article currently exists at Asylum Township, Bradford County, Pennsylvania. Which should it be? Possibly Asylum Township, Pennsylvania? Ryan Vesey 19:26, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Photo request - William Blount statue

If anyone one will be in the vicinity of the National Constitution Center soon, we could use a picture of the William Blount statue in the Signers' Hall exhibit, preferrably a low-angle shot, for the William Blount article. If the statues fall under sculptors' copyrights, then disregard. Bms4880 (talk) 16:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Do you know when the statue was created? Ryan Vesey 00:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Likely 2003, see File:StudioEIS NCC 9981.jpg, StudioEIS and StudioEIS.com. On the photo is an OTRS release, but something is a bit askew, e.g. the (c) on the photos in our article. If you can get confirmation that the OTRS release would apply (which I very much doubt) give me a month or two and I'll get the photo. Note that any sculpture made since 1987 is almost certainly copyrighted. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Spanish speaking neighborhoods

What are the main Spanish speaking areas of Philly? http://libwww.freelibrary.org/branches/branch.cfm?loc=LEH suggests that it is these areas: "Central North Philadelphia, Fairhill, St. Edwards/Hartranft, and West Kensington" - Any others?

I ask because it may be good to create articles on these places on the Spanish Wikipedia WhisperToMe (talk) 23:56, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

In the last decade, hispanics have also moved into the Italian market area (south of Washington Blvd), and I've seen postings about events across the river in South Jersey recently. For a long time, Philly had either a small or inactive hispanic community relative to the NY and DC and I think even Baltimore metro areas.Jweaver28 (talk) 19:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Benjamin Rush article needs work--high importance and C class

This article really needs work, quite probably at the Free Library, U Penn or the Historical Society. Other Rush family papers are apparently at the U Delaware. I'm rarely in Phila these days, so I wanted to flag this article in the hopes someone can take up the keyboard!Jweaver28 (talk) 19:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

TAFI

Hello, Please note that George M. Dallas, which is within this project's scope, has been selected to become a Today's Article for Improvement. The article is currently in the TAFI Holding Area, where comments are welcome about ideas to improve it. After the article is moved from the holding area to the TAFI schedule, it will appear on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Today's Article for Improvement" section for one week. Everyone is invited to participate in the discussion and encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thank you, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC) (From the TAFI team)

Seeking help with Philadelphia College Basketball Article

Hello, I'm currently working on an article for the 2003-2004 Saint Joseph's Hawks Mens Basketball and I was wondering if you were at all interested in helping me add to it. The url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003%E2%80%9304_Saint_Joseph%27s_Hawks_men%27s_basketball_team , thanks for the help. 5hane2012 (talk) 01:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)5hane20125hane2012 (talk) 01:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC) I moveed this section here from the project page. Kumioko (talk) 19:49, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Mummers Parade merger proposal

There are five articles on groups associated with the Mummers Parade who I assert are not notable on their own and their content would be better served by being merged into Mummers Parade. Please join the merger proposal discussion at Talk:Mummers Parade#Merger proposal April 2013.--ColonelHenry (talk) 14:15, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania

I created {{Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania}}. It's a county navbox for Philadelphia, listing the neighborhoods and former municipalities. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 02:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Kingsessing neighborhood vs Kingsessing Township/Southwest Philadelphia

Resolved

My understanding is that the neighborhood of Kingsessing is not ceremonious with Southwest Philadelphia (the former Kingsessing Township), but that is is merely one neighborhood in the Southwest. Can someone conform this. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 15:02, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've conformed this. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 17:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

ceremonious → coterminous (adj., #3).
conform(ed) →? confirm(ed) (#3).
--Thnidu (talk) 01:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Map for Garden Court

Garden Court, Philadelphia has a US Historic Place infobox – great!

In that infobox is a map of Pennsylvania, with a pin for Philadelphia – fine for a US Historic Place, but not very useful for a location in Philly.

How about a map of Philadelphia showing the location of Garden Court?

--Thnidu (talk) 01:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

The question has come up before in different guises for NRHP sites, perhaps for Waterloo, Iowa. Somebody in Waterloo said that the maps of Iowa with a pin for Waterloo wasn't very useful for folks who live in Iowa. Nevertheless, you gotta realize that not everybody knows where Waterloo, IA is and only a very few of our readers would ever benefit from having a street map of Waterloo. Same thing might go for Philly. A couple of issues:

• You can get a Google street map easily enough just by clicking on the coordinates
• The French Wikipedia has a "double map" system, where it shows the national map, but if you click on it it shows the local map. Given the coords to Google map, is this worth the effort?
• Philly is not, of course, Waterloo, Iowa. Maybe enough people know where it is that they don't need a PA map, and could use a local map.

Let us know what you think is the best answer! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Alphabetization in participant list

• @Dthomsen8: I noticed that Dthomsen8 had a ~~~~-type dated signature in the list in the position for "Thomsen" -- it happened to be just below the entry I was inserting for myself. When I saw a proper listing, properly set among the D's, I removed the misplaced signature.
• @Thunderball15: Similarly, I deleted Thunderball15's signature at the foot of the section, after the table and with a piped other name, and redundant to the correctly placed entry. Unlike Dthomsen8, Thunderball15 is redlinked: no user page, though there is a talk page, indicating activity by this user in June 2011‎ but not since.

--Thnidu (talk) 07:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

College basketball team navigation templates

Please join the discussion at the College Basketball Wikiproject for forming a consensus on the creation of a basic navigation template for college basketball teams. Creation of these templates will impact articles on Philadelphia related teams such as those in the Big Five. CrazyPaco (talk) 11:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox PAhistoric

Template:Infobox PAhistoric has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. CrazyPaco (talk) 15:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

"Being White in Philly" article by Huber and reactions

This article seems to be controversial:

• Huber, Robert. "Being White in Philly." Philadelphia Magazine. March 1, 2013.

Reactions:

• Denvir, Daniel. "Philly Mag cover: Whites must criticize blacks more ." Philadelphia City Paper. March 2, 2013.
• Heller, Karen. "Karen Heller: Philly mag story on blacks and race stirs angst and anger." Philadelphia Inquirer. March 7, 2013.
• Volk, Steve. "Why I Hope You Won’t Read “Being White in Philly”." Philadelphia Magazine. March 5, 2013.
• Fagone, Jason. "Philly Mag’s “Being White in Philly” Doesn’t Make Sense as Journalism." Philadelphia Magazine. March 4, 2013.
• McGrath, Tom. "Why We Wrote About Race." Philadelphia Magazine. March 4, 2013.
• McGrath, Tom. "Readers React on Twitter to “Being White in Philly”." Philadelphia Magazine. March 5, 2013.
• "Mayor Nutter's race distraction is useless." Philadelphia Inquirer. March 19, 2013.

Race summit:

• "Philly mag to host summit on race on Monday." Philadelphia Daily News at Philadelphia Inquirer. Tuesday March 12, 2013 - At the "Hey Jen" column of Jenice "Jen" Armstrong.
• Moran, Robert. "Philadelphia Magazine story discussed with Philadelphia Association of Black Journalists." Philadelphia Inquirer. March 21, 2013.
• DeLeon, Clark. "Killing the messenger." Philadelphia Inquirer. March 25, 2013.
• Moran, Robert. "Philadelphia Magazine editor faces critics on race article." Philadelphia Inquirer. March 20, 2013.

WhisperToMe (talk) 15:10, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Inner-Ring Suburbs of Philadelphia

Hi WP Philadelphia, I'm in a sort of an disagreement with another Wiki user, and I need a third party opinion to get something straight. As I understand it, a inner-ring suburb is a place that is outside a city, that often forms a border with the city, and had their population established before the postwar boom. So based off this information, the following in my mind would be considered the inner ring suburbs of Philadelphia:

• Cheltenham Township
• Haverford Township
• Lower Merion Township
• Upper Darby Township

Places like Bensalem, Abington, and Norristown don't border the city or had their population explosion postwar.

So I guess my question is:

• What exactly is an inner ring suburb?
• And based off that, what are the TRUE inner-ring suburbs of Philadelphia?

Peetlesnumber1 (talk) 15:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• @Peetlesnumber1: - the best way to solve this is to find reliable sources and see how they label them: See what books call which suburbs "inner ring" WhisperToMe (talk) 15:22, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Lewis Katz

I think that it is an embarrassment to Wikipedia that there is no article on Lewis Katz. I would help with an article but one has already been deleted so it is beyond my skills here to have an article created.24.0.133.234 (talk) 12:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in the Americas may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer _(Talk) 21:03, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for Proposed Article Changes Review

The article AAMCO has a pending update on its talk page from a PR company (hi there). Would love to get feedback and hear about any more information that we can make available or how we can better write the article to be more wiki appropriate. Stefannagey (talk) 12:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Redlinked participants

I looked at one of the redlinked project participants and couldn't find any activity in the past three years or so. I went through the others and added a note to their names in the list—Bobval, GShton, meebly, Thunderball15—except for shoessss, who has a huge number of edits listed and too many mentions for me to scan. --Thnidu (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Obsolete! Obsolete!

Philadelphia Meetups says:

1. Next special event: GLAM Café - June 10, 2014 (2nd Tuesday of each month)

(BTW, that § title isn't meant to be yelling at anyone. It's a quote.) --Thnidu (talk) 06:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

TFAR notification

I've nominated an article relevant to this project for WP:TFAR consideration, discussion at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/George B. McClellan. — Cirt (talk) 20:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Requested move of "Park Towne Place Apartment Homes" to "Park Towne Place"

A discussion has been started about moving the "Park Towne Place Apartment Homes" article to "Park Towne Place". Interested Wikipedians are encouraged to take part. TypoBoy (talk) 19:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

update

I updated § Events, which was announcing February's meeting as the next one; and I changed the location listing, per the Meetup page. Mary Mark Ockerbloom, the Meetup page lists the location as the Chemical Heritage Foundation for July through December or beyond. To discuss this, please {{Ping}} me. --Thnidu (talk) 02:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ECW Arena listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for ECW Arena to be moved to 2300 Arena. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:45, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Justin Brown (wide receiver) listed at Requested moves

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Photographing every municipality in Pennsylvania

Several of us are engaged in a project to make sure that every municipality in the state has a photo in its article. That's one photo for every city, borough, town, and township. We'll probably leave census-designated places and unincorporated communities for next year.

There are 2562 municipalities in the state, which is likely the largest for any US state. So far we have about 1,869 of them photographed, with about 700 left to go. You can see what photos are needed, divided by county at User:Nyttend/Pennsylvania

You can also see the entire list at List of municipalities in Pennsylvania. Please take photos and upload them, first to the article for the municipality and then to the list article. We'd like to be finished with this project by July 4th, 2015.

What should you take photos of?

If you live in the area, you probably know better than we do what's the most important or most beautiful part of the municipality. But just in case you need a few ideas, try these subjects.

• the town hall
• railroad station
• fire station or police station
• a building on the National Register of Historic Places
• a school or library
• a bridge
• a church
• a park, perhaps with a Civil War monument
• the corner of State and Main Streets
• other street scenes, including residential areas and rural areas
• the most beautiful building in town
• the tallest building in town

When uploading the files to Commons, please include a category for the name of the municipality, or if no such category exists, the name of the county.

There is a "watchlist banner" running during June for all registered editors with a PA located IP. Even before the banner started running we had about 5 photographers working on this already: 1 in Western, PA, about 3 in SE PA, and 1 in NE PA. It looks like we need some folks in Western and Central PA!

If you have any questions, just ask, either here or at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pennsylvania ‎.

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Keep an eye out

We've had two incidents now (Avenue of the Arts, Philadelphia and Elfreth's Alley) where an IP hopper has tried to delete an entire article on flimsy grounds, without discussion, and accompanied in one case by edit-warring. I would suggest that members of this project add as many Philadelphia-based articles to their watchlists as possible and keep an eye out for further disruption. Good luck. BMK (talk) 03:05, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Same thing happened for Front Street (Philadelphia) and Girard Avenue. His MO for deleting was especially sneaky - just putting in redirects to very slightly related articles. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 13:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm setting up a list to watch, myself, but I'm getting a weird problem. I'm using the mobile beta front end, which may or may not have something to do with it. When I look at the watchlist it says, for example, "last modified five days ago". But then, when I go to the edit history, the most recent edit is five months or a year ago. And I am checking the talk pages as well. --Thnidu (talk) 07:50, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride!

• What? Wiki Loves Pride, a campaign to document and photograph LGBT culture and history, including pride events
• When? June 2015
• How can you help?

  1.) Create or improve LGBT-related articles and showcase the results of your work here

  2.) Upload photographs or other media related to LGBT culture and history, including pride events, and add images to relevant Wikipedia articles; feel free to create a subpage with a gallery of your images (see examples from last year)

  3.) Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)

Or, view or update the current list of Tasks. This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. Visit the group's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Wikipedia, plain and simple, and all are welcome!

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's main talk page.

Thanks, and happy editing!

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The Black Banana in Philadelphia

Black Banana needs help. It was a very popular nightclub, especially for the gay scene, from the 70's to 90's. It closed in 1998. The article is currently unsourced, but I found one article [6] that I put under External links for right now. I can't find any other mainstream news articles from searches. I think it will take someone who can find gay media sources to properly source the article and rescue it. There are no incoming links either. Help! Mnnlaxer (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Mnnlaxer I just googled for The Black Banana in Philadelphia. here are the snippets and hits that look promising just from the first page of the search results. the formatting is probably rather screwy because I'm using my smartphone, because I'm not so smart myself this time of night.

• Black Banana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Black_Bana...

The Black Banana was a nightclub in Philadelphia. It began as La Banane Noire at 534 South 4th Street in 1970 by ...

• Black Banana : 3rd and Race St, Philadelphia, PA | DiscoMusic.com

www​.discomusic.com/.../14563_0_6_0_...

https://www.facebook.com/.../set/?set=o...

• Photos of The Black Banana Nightclub Philadelphia. Already tagged. LikeUnlike. 2. Already tagged. LikeUnlike. 1. 1 Banana & The Music | Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/.../Black-Banana...

Black Banana & The Music. 51 likes · 1 talking about this. The Black Banana was a nightclub in Philadelphia. It began ...

• The Black Banana Reunion - G Philly

www​.phillymag.com/...philly/.../the-blac...

Jan 11, 2011 ... In 1986, Nick London left his job as a DJ and promoter at Philly nightclub the Black Banana to study ...

• Remember the Black Banana - YouTube Apr 28, 2007

a virtual tour through a Philadelphia Legend. This the Black Banana of 1989 til the time of the fire.

m.youtube.com

Black Banana Night Club 1985 - YouTube

Jun 22, 2006

MelToxic.com Video shot while working at black banana dance club. about 1985.

look for ...

m.youtube.com

• Vintage Black Banana Philadelphia T-Shirt - Retrophilly.com

www​.retrophilly.com/.../Product.aspx?id...

vintage t-shirt and related apparel recalling the legendary Black Banana, one of Philadelphia's hottest spots for clubbing ...

• Black Banana Bar in Philadelphia, PA - 2159254433 - Clubplanet

www​.clubplanet.com/.../Philadelphia/Blac...

Philadelphia: Visit Clubplanet.com for Black Banana reviews, photos, events as well as guest-list information, door ...

Images for The Black Banana in Philadelphia

• Black Banana Philly Restaurants - Philadelphia - Joonbug.com

joonbug.com/philadelphia/.../Black-Bana...

Philadelphia Nightlife - Joonbug ... BLACK BANANA PHILLY RESTAURANTS - PHILADELPHIA. PLACES. Show All ...

• Black Banana Reunion :: :: Philadelphia City Paper

citypaper.net/article.php?Black-Banana...

Jan 12, 2011 ... If Philadelphia had its own version of Studio 54, it was the Black Banana at Third and Race. In the '70s ...

• Black Banana - Northern Liberties - Fishtown - Philadelphia, PA

https://foursquare.com/.../black-banana/...

6 visitor has checked in at Black Banana. See photos, tips, similar places, and friends who have been there.

• Thread: The Black Banana Reunion - Philadelphia Speaks Forum

www​.philadelphiaspeaks.com/.../8818-Th...

Jan 7, 2010 ... For those unfamiliar with The Black Banana, check this out: Black Banana - Wikipedia, the free ...

• Is there anything like the Black Banana or The Bank circa ...

www​.quora.com/Is-there-anything-like-t...

Is there anything like the Black Banana or The Bank circa 1989-1993 in Philadelphia? Curious if there is ... Philadelphia, PA: What are the top tech venture captial firms in Philadelpia? Philadelphia, PA: ...

• The Black Banana - RetroPhilly.com | Philadelphia Memories ...

https://www.pinterest.com/.../...

The Black Banana - RetroPhilly.com Clips Artworks, Boards Boards, Philly Metro, Philadelphia Memories, Metro ...

• Mitchell Nathanson - ‎2007 - Sports & Recreation

https://books.google.com/books?id=PyHzcHP7VlwC&dq=The+Black+Banana+in+Philadelphia&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Ibid., Leslie Bennetts, “The Philadelphia Story, Updated,” New York Times Magazine, May ¡0, ¡98¡, ¡5. ... Although Collins gave the Black Banana a mixed review, he concluded that, “[i]f nothing else, the ...

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 06:34, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

@Thnidu: The two Facebook links don't work, but even if they did, they can't be sources. The G Philly (Philadelphia Magazine) is listed under External links. It's the only source I found, and I looked. Youtubes could be external links, but not sources. T-shirt, no. Joonbug, 404's. The shortened links really do no good to post. But I'd seen the citypaper link. Need more. Forum thread might be interesting, but not a source. Again, post the full link. The baseball book can be used. But it's meager. Thanks for trying, but I don't think there is enough to make a go of an article. Mnnlaxer (talk) 02:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

@Mnnlaxer: Yeah, I realized the problem with the links, but I was too tired (2:34 am here) to do anything better with them. Same now. Maybe I'll get back to this; if I find some live and useful-looking links I'll ping you again here. --Thnidu (talk) 03:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Inquirer Building

I am trying to split the Inquirer Building off as a separate article from Philadelphia Inquirer#Elverson_Building (link goes to anchor in the article). I'm working on it at User:Thnidu/sandbox/Inquirer Building. Advice and comments are more than welcome. See

• Talk:The_Philadelphia_Inquirer#proposal_to_create_a_separate_Elverson_Building_article

Advice also welcome with regard to diplomacy or something of that caliber. See

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=668233630
2. User talk:Beyond My Ken#Inquirer/Elverson Building

Thnidu (talk) 05:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

The split has been accomplished, thanks to Beyond My Ken. The new article is Inquirer Building. --Thnidu (talk) 03:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

List of parks

I thought it would be useful for us to have a complete list of the city's parks, whether adding it to WP or not: at least it would be useful for seeing what articles we might want to add. I got the list from Parks & Rec, not without some difficulty; the list, the story, and the relevant legalese are all in User:Thnidu/Philadelphia parks. --Thnidu (talk) 03:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I just investigated the two "Pennypack" entries and found a link describing the relation between them. I've started a subpage, User:Thnidu/Philadelphia parks/Pennypack,* with just that link. I think this is the pattern I'll follow. Everyone is welcome to continue this. As we get postable articles, we can request inclusion by the usual method (which I don't remember offhand...) --Thnidu (talk) 04:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

* I've linked the two "Pennypack" entries to the existing Pennypack Park page instead, and moved the list of potential sources on the talk page there, Talk:Pennypack Park#Potential sources. --Thnidu (talk) 06:00, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Well! It turns out that we already have an article on the park system as a whole, including a (complete?) list, but it's cunningly hidden under the name Fairmount Park, which is also the official name of the whole park system. I've added a redirect from Philadelphia parks. The list of parks is in the section Neighborhood and regional parks. --Thnidu (talk) 13:37, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Cleanup needed for Chester Upland School District

I think there is a reorganization and cleanup needed of Chester Upland School District. There are primary source statistics posted that are out of date, and I think reducing the number of sections will make it more readable. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:23, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

W. Nelson Francis

Much to my surprise, I just now happened on "W. Nelson Francis" via the Random Article button and have added it to Category:People from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I was surprised because his name is quite well known in my field, linguistics, as one of the two creators of the Brown Corpus. It needs work, as discussed on its talk page, which I guess falls to me unless there's another linguist on the project. Thnidu (talk) 08:41, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Photo request in Lansdale

9th Street SEPTA station in Lansdale is opening this Sunday, the 15th. Is there anyone in the area who'd be able to get photographs on opening day or thereafter? Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

IP editors are erasing neighborhoods

A bunch of recent IP edits have been made, all working toward removing Center City neighborhoods, including Logan Square and Fitler Square, and adding the regional descriptions Center City East and Center City West.

This seems wrong to me. I'd prefer hearing other people's opinions before reverting much of the changes. (Though I did put Logan Square back.)

Am I the only one who thinks Rittenhouse Square is a neighborhood, and not just a square? TypoBoy (talk) 18:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Whoever is making these changes is working pretty hard. They have moved the "Penn Center, Philadelphia" article to "Center City West, Philadelphia". The Rittenhouse Square article now asserts that it's in the "Rit-Fit" neighborhood. Various spellings of "Rit-Fit" now redirect to that former Penn Center article. TypoBoy (talk) 00:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Last year there was a similar effort to redirect Philadelphia streets to neigborhood or SEPTA station articles. I suggest that anyone mentioning a particular address to use brackets so the links are easily followed. I will start looking for changes and reversing them.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree with you entirely, TypoBoy. (I thought I'd already posted this comment, but evidently not.) I've lived in Philadelphia for 15 years, and I've never heard such names as "Center City West" -- that expression, to me, would refer to a much larger region extending north and south -- or (ugh!) "Rit-Fit". Semi-protect the pages? --Thnidu (talk) 00:32, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Logan Square, Philadelphia and Fitler Square did not have much to change. Penn Center, Philadelphia, Rit-Fit and Center City West, Philadelphia are next for me to check.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:43, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

• I would agree that the changes being made to the neighborhood names are not appropriate. I live in Philadelphia, and have never heard "Rit-Fit" used; nor does it tend to appear in publications or online references. I did find it on the following webpage, which purports to list nicknames for Philadelphia neighborhoods: Nicknames (It might worth seeing if other names mentioned in the list are also being changed.) I would certainly support "Penn Center": a quick google search indicates that name is commonly and consistently used in books from 1952 to 2014, including publications by the Philadelphia City Planning Commission. "Center city West" seems to get some use on realtor's websites, but I only found one mention in a google book search, in 2012's Explorer's Guide Eastern Pennsylvania by Laura Randall. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment, Mary Mark. See you Tuesday at the GLAM Caffee.--DThomsen8 (talk) 01:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

A main object of these IP editors seems to be to invent the neighborhoods of Center City West and Center City East, and have them occupy (in both geography and mind-share) the spaces roughly occupied by Penn Center and Market East, respectively. I have undone most of the changes relating to Penn Center. Market East is still AWOL. TypoBoy (talk) 16:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

It looks like Market East was renamed to Center City East: [7] by ProdConn9095 in June 2015. I don't understand why they would want to do this. -- Austin Murphy (talk) 15:07, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

What I find puzzling is that these editors, whoever they are, are doing real work along with their quirky revisionism. For instance, they created a separate template for Center City neighborhoods to replace the big "communities of Philadelphia" template. Come to think of it, that isn't necessarily desirable. But it did require work.

These seem like the actions of a strongly motivated group of editors who know a lot about Wikipedia, if not so much about Philadelphia, and have been given the task of promoting Center City, or some aspect of it.

I intend to include a link to this discussion in the edit summary of any changes I make while cleaning up after these folks. I encourage others to do the same. TypoBoy (talk) 15:40, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Phluph

Please see Talk:French_Quarter,_Philadelphia#Phluff. I'll likely nominate this for deletion. It was copied in toto to the Rittenhouse Square article - I removed that nonsense. Does anybody in this project know anything about it (outside of being a PR project)?

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Playing fast and loose with neighborhood boundaries

The lead paragraph of the Fairmount article formerly (and, I think, accurately) said that the neighborhood is in lower North Philadelphia. For some months it has said instead that Fairmount is in "Greater Center City". There are some problems with this:

• It's inconsistent with the "Municipalities and Communities of Philadelphia" template"
• Wikipedia does not otherwise recognize the existence of "Greater Center City".
• There's no such thing as "Greater Center City". It's a region chosen arbitrarily for study by the Center City District, not an actual community.

I argued on the Fairmount talk page that the description of the geography should be changed back. The only response was from the editor who had introduced the change, who thought, unsurprisingly, that it's an improvement.

I continue to believe that geographical descriptions of Philadelphia neighborhoods should be consistent between articles and should correspond to the most common usage outside Wikipedia. I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness. TypoBoy (talk) 15:15, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Temple University opening access to library resources for Wikipedian interested in Philadelphia history

Hi WikiProject Philadelphia,

Temple University Libraries wants to help an experienced Wikipedian improve the quality of articles related to the history of Philadelphia and/or the history of African-Americans in Philadelphia.

Temple will provide full access to its library's resources (databases, ebooks, etc.) in exchange for a commitment to bring some of the articles you work on to B-class or better. This is a remote Wikipedia Visiting Scholars position open to editors anywhere. For more information see the Temple University Visiting Scholars page. If you have questions, you can ask on my talk page (or email if you prefer). If you know you're interested, head to the application form. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:37, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject United States - 50,000 Challenge

You are invited to participate in the 50,000 Challenge, aiming for 50,000 article improvements and creations for articles relating to the United States. This effort began on November 1, 2016 and to reach our goal, we will need editors like you to participate, expand, and create. See more here!

---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:23, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Popular pages report

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Archive 1/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Philadelphia.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

• The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
• The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
• The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Philadelphia, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Annenberg School history

Hello Wikipedia editors! I proposed updates to add a History section to Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, giving readers historical background on the school. In addition to creating a central location where historical information can be added by future editors, my proposal corrects and clarifies some information. You can read my full edit request here. Are there any members of WikiProject Philadelphia who can review my request and considering moving these edits to the main article if appropriate?

As an employee of the Annenberg School for Communication, I have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, which is why I am proposing changes and discussing my suggestions on Talk pages rather than edit the article myself. Thank you. Julie at Annenberg (talk) 20:37, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Julie, You can edit the article even though you have a COI. It just means you should defer to others if they consider your edits to be biased. I looked at your text and it seems fine. --Austin Murphy (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Wing Bowl#Allegations of sexism and misogyny

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Wing Bowl#Allegations of sexism and misogyny. – Marchjuly (talk) 01:56, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

What counts as a "community" for the Philadelphia County template?

Template:Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania was recently edited to add two new places, Parkland and Industrial. Two new articles, Parkland, Philadelphia and Industrial, Philadelphia, have been created for them. Philly.com's "Data Hub", which tracks statistics, including crime statistics, by location, was cited as a reference, because it has pages for Parkland and Industrial.

My view is that the Data Hub is using the words "industrial" and "parkland" in their usual sense, and not as proper-noun place names. The site is designed to consider every point in the city as part of an area, and it must use a name for each area. Most of the areas share the borders and the names of Philadelphia communities, such as Roxborough and Torresdale. For these two chunks of left-over Philadelphia geography, the Data Hub uses descriptive terms, because there weren't place names but their system required names. In my view, it does not follow that Wikipedia should claim that these are place names.

Am I off base here? I've certainly never heard somebody say, "I'm going to drive to Industrial today". Is there such a place? TypoBoy (talk) 16:45, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Mumia Abu-Jamal

I have nominated Mumia Abu-Jamal for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DrKay (talk) 16:27, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

GA review of Manuel Torres

My Good Article nomination of Manuel Torres (diplomat) has languished for over 100 days. Would a heroic editor from the project be interested in reviewing this fascinating Philadelphian? Kim Post (talk) 15:33, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Discussions of interest

There are a number of discussions on Talk:James Martin (priest, born 1960) which may be of interest to the members of this group, in particular this RfC. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Rfc on James Martin (priest, born 1960)

There is an open RfC at Talk:James_Martin_(priest,_born_1960)#Request_for_Comment_2 that may be of interest to this community. --PluniaZ (talk) 21:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Move request

There is a move request you may be interested in at Talk:Stephen Hahn (oncologist)#Requested move 18 October 2020.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 05:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

New film article - Bloodlust Zombies

I created a new film article, about Bloodlust Zombies. (The film was shot in Philadelphia). Let me know if you want to help out with further research! Thanks very much, Right cite (talk) 03:02, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

The Philadelphia Inquirer featured article review

I have nominated The Philadelphia Inquirer for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:58, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

The Three 4 Tens

This article is currently up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Three 4 Tens. This band is based in Philadelphia. I thought I would put a note here as project members may have access to Philadelphia based sources (perhaps The Philadelphia Inquirer archives?) which other editors like myself do not. All opinions and comments welcome at that discussion.4meter4 (talk) 04:12, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Photo needed from the Parkway Central Library

Hello Philadelphians. I'm working on an article about a raven in the Parkway Central Library. Grip belonged to Charles Dickens and is on display in the rare book department. I'm told that photos can be taken, but she is behind two layers of glass, so getting a good photo might be difficult. I'm not in the area, so if anyone would be so kind as to make the trip and take a photo, I'd appreciate it very much. Please let me know if you are able to upload it to Commons. Thanks, gobonobo ^{+ c} 20:45, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Dthomsen8 has passed

Hello WikiProject Philadelphia, it's been brought to my attention on my talk page prolific Wikipedian David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) passed away in November 2022. He was also a prolific copy-editor at the Guild of Copy Editors, of which I'm a member. As he was a somewhat active member of this WikiProject, I'm asking if anyone here would want to collaborate on a short obituary for The Signpost. I'm also going to ask at WikiProject Pennsylvania, which seems more active than this project. Feel free to get in touch on my talk page or here; I'll watchlist. Best regards, Baffle☿gab 14:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

David's obituary has been published here. Best regards, Baffle☿gab 18:23, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

2022 Philadelphia shooting

2022 Philadelphia shooting has been nominated for deletion, if any project members care to participate in the ongoing discussion or otherwise improve the article. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:33, 8 September 2023 (UTC)