Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing

2024 Olympics

For anyone in an article-creating mood, the 2024 Summer Olympics starts in 10 days and there are a number qualified boxers still missing articles, many of whom are likely notable. See here: 52 men's boxers and 39 women's boxers missing articles. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Revisiting rankings

In multiple boxer articles across Wikipedia, I have noticed and removed[1][2] the "dynamic" listings of rankings in the lead of their respective articles because a) they are often not regularly updated and more importantly (b) they are not cited to independent reliable sources outside of the ranking organisations themselves which causes WP:NOTCV and WP:UNDUE concerns. WP:LEADs are supposed to be summaries about major parts of the article. There was a previous discussion at WP:BOXING about the rankings where there didn't seem to be consensus about their inclusion in the lead.[3] I believe that if dynamic rankings are to be included anywhere, they should be in the infoboxes. Should there be a RfC about this to gain wider feedback outside the Wikiproject? Morbidthoughts (talk) 01:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

As far as divisional and all-time rankings go, I'd like to see the back of them. I particularly dislike BoxRec's "all-time greatest" dynamic rankings peppered everywhere. I've said it before that they're a chore to go around updating, and User:Morbidthoughts presents a good point with regards to WP:WEIGHT. Which are more credible—myriad outlets such as The Ring, TBRB, BoxRec, or ESPN; or the sanctioning bodies themselves? I think neither, really. I also would not mind getting rid of pound for pound rankings, although The Ring's rankings tend to get significant coverage whenever there's a clear world's number one. However, when it comes to TBRB and all the others being shoehorned into lead sections—who cares? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Imane Khelif

There are currently two RFCs at Talk:Imane Khelif. Interested editors are invited to participate at Talk:Imane Khelif/Archive 4#RfC lead and Talk:Imane Khelif/Archive 4#RfC on weight of "misinformation" in lead. TarnishedPath^talk 10:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Rocky Balboa (film)

Rocky Balboa (film) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 20:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Top Billed or Champion First in articles

As far as boxing match articles go, is it the champion that goes first or the top billed fighter that gets listed first. I generally listed the champion first in years past, but one such article I created, Terry Norris vs. Sugar Ray Leonard was moved to it's current title, Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Terry Norris as the poster for the fight billed Sugar Ray Leonard before the champion Terry Norris. Recently I just created Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins but with Hopkins first as he was billed before the champion Tavoris Cloud. Also, I see that Floyd Mayweather's fights (i.e. Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto) he is billed over the champions and that is reflected in the article. I'm fine with either way, just wanted to know the consensus for the titles.Beast from da East (talk) 04:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

It would be good to reach a consensus, as it's likely never been discussed. Articles being moved back and forth on a whim is not good practice. If we go by top billing on posters, we run into a problem if such posters cannot be found. The champion being listed first makes the most sense, although I have changed a few article titles in the past to reflect top billing over champion; Mayweather–Ortiz being one such example. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

It appears here on Wikipedia, it mostly skews towards top billed on the poster (Mayweather, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Etc.) Boxrec though for example almost has the champion first in their articles, I'm fine with either way, just would like a consensus so everyone knows what is the correct way as I've seen pages moved both ways.Beast from da East (talk) 01:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Glossary of boxing terms

I don't know enough to even start such an article; but it strikes me as a glaring hole in Wikipedia, which has such articles on several other games and sports (including, ptui!, Glossary of professional wrestling terms). There are the technical terms; and expressions which have entered everyday language include: toe the line (from bareknuckle days), saved by the bell, box into a corner, out for the count, and left/right hook in the military sense. Do any members of this WikiProject feel able to step up to the mark (another term from bareknuckle days)? Narky Blert (talk) 15:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Not to mention (duh) knockout and low blow. Narky Blert (talk) 16:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Jermain Taylor

Jermain Taylor has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 07:35, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

New articles in need of clean-up

All of User:Sam11333's newly created articles need clean-up for capitalised weight classes, flagicons, and the inclusion of 'lineal' titles—it's all gotta go. Unfortunately he hasn't taken on board any of the style guide advice provided. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Help me with expansion of NZ Boxers especially Peach Boxing

Hey can someone help me update a couple of these as I just dont have the time to maintain them anymore and they are getting neglected.

Andrei Mikhailovich needs his profile to reflected on the fact that he was declared mandatory challenger by IBF, negotiations were lengthy, a lot of post poned fight, eventually got a fight after 1 year hiatus due to waiting for the elimination fight, and then his world title which ended in him losing

Isaac Peach

Jerome Pampellone

Mea Motu needs to be expanded more recent events, especially her fights in 2024 and her being on TV

David Letele for more his community work

David Higgins (event promoter)

Duco Events especially with David Nyika, T20 Black Clash and Synthony events

Lani Daniels espeically expansion of her being on TV

Uila Mau'u

Floyd Masson

Boxing NZ reflecting on leaving IBA and joining World Boxing

Mose Auimatagi Jnr

Junior Fa retiring in his career, leaving the church, big life change and his last loss

Hemi Ahio

any help would be very much appreciated Bennyaha (talk) 22:27, 6 October 2024 (UTC)