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Improving Melbourne suburb articles

Hi all, as many of you will be aware, there is little consistency between the format and content in articles on Suburbs in Melbourne. For example, compare the structure and content of Craigieburn, Victoria vs. Laverton North vs. Mornington, Victoria.

I would like to propose a discussion to develop a high-level template to guide the layout and format of these articles. I'd like to get stuck into updating and improving a lot of these articles but would like to discuss here first.

I don't propose this template to be prescriptive but instead act as a guide. I've had a bit of a look around other parts of Wikipedia but have not been able to find a comparable template or information.

To get started I've put together this sandbox-type template guide. It's mainly to do with structure but includes notes too. I have looked at many different suburb articles - both from Melbourne and elsewhere in Australia and overseas. Again, the idea is not to be prescriptive or require all of the subheadings/content in the guide, but rather to act as a starting point to help standardise things a little bit.

Here to start the discussion - happy to hear all thoughts and ideas! Thanks. Takerlamar (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Takerlamar,

I'm glad someone else has shown some interest in trying to sort this out. This inconsistency also extends to the LGA's of Victoria. A while back, I had started working on trying to update the LGA's to a uniform standard (see User:ThylacineHunter/LGA).

Unfortunately my health and then my parents health got in the way with me having the time to edit Wikipedia. Things have settled down enough that I'm hoping to be able put aside regular time to continue working on this. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 04:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@ThylacineHunter Sounds fantastic, great to hear! And that's an amazing amount of work you've done on the LGAs. Very impressive.

Since I posted this original comment I've started going through the suburb articles (slowly). Balwyn is the first one I edited with the sandbox template I linked above.

Hope you feel better and can assist when you can. I'd appreciate any comments you have on the template guide or any other help. Thanks. Takerlamar (talk) 07:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Takerlamar

Useful resources:

• Victorian Railway 1918 Victorian station names - This may be of help with name meanings as a lot of localities had stations
• MapShareVic - This is what I used to get all localities in Victoria and accurate LGA's for all localities in Victoria. Has useful layers

As for the template:

• Landmarks - Maybe change to "Landmarks/VHR (Victorian Heritage Register)", might be nice to include the VHR places
• Active transport - Not sure what this is exactly in relation to the other subcategories
• Transport -> Goods - Maybe change to "Freight"
• Parks and gardens - Could be moved up to "Geography" (even with "Landmarks", which would then have a seperate "VHR")

The rest looks fine. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 07:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks very much - I've added those changes, including notes on VHR locations. Takerlamar (talk) 23:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Looks good.

I expanded the Education section into Schools and Libraries.

Could also do with a Cultural section, eg festival etc.

Not sure what to list Museums under, they could be Landmarks, Cultural, or Education. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 00:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)