Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Haflinger (horse)/archive1
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Comments by Sasata (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
"shorter and more draft-like" link draft here rather than last paragraph of lead; maybe link packhorse too (same sentence)"confederation of 22 national registries" link to breed registry?"golden chestnut" needs hyphen
- In this context, I don't think a hyphen fits...we don't hyphenate horse colors, blood bay, seal brown, dapple gray, etc... Montanabw(talk) 02:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
link flaxen
- "Flaxen" redirects to the article about the Flax plant. Can't find one on the color or the gene, so far... Montanabw(talk) 02:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)Follow up': found Blond#Varieties, which describes the color, changed the link to that, but if you'd prefer it stay linked to chestnut horse color article, find with me.
- We've directed it to a portion of the chestnut (coat) article that discusses flaxen. The other option is a portion of Blond, but this is discussing human hair. Dana boomer (talk) 02:53, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
"medium long" hyphen"…rhythmic gaits that cover large amounts of ground." last part seems a bit inelegant … maybe "considerable distance" or something
- Reworded to "naturally extended" - is this better?
- I put down "ground-covering", which is better horse lingo...extension refers to a phase of gait, usually rider-produced. Montanabw(talk) 02:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
link stud (I see it linked later in the second paragraph of History)"An Italian stallion" sorry, I LOLed when I read this"It is currently strongest in Italy," does "strongest" here mean most populous?--Yes -- MTBW"Especially in the early years of the breed's history, some inbreeding was practiced, both by accident and design." Is it possible to "practice" something by accident?"This served to further reinforce the dominant characteristics of the breed." use of "further" implies that was something else mentioned previously that reinforced the breed characteristics, but I don't see it"These abandoned horses are believed to have been influenced by Oriental bloodlines, and may help explain the high percentage of Arabian blood seen in the Haflinger." How is a blood percentage determined? Is this a genetic test? Or is this the horse-talk way of saying the breed has physical characteristics commonly associated with Oriental bloodlines?"A light type of mountain pony was first recorded" the type was light, or the pony was light?"Whatever its origins the breed developed in a mountainous climate," think this needs a comma after "origins""well acclimated" hyphenlink Val Venosta"with the aim of improving breeding procedures by pure-breeding and the establishment of a studbook and stallion registry." would this be better with the active voice, "and establishing…""…and give prize money for events." what events?
- Changed to "breed shows".
- Refined link to "Horse shows" as the other article covers all types of animals and here there may have been ref to all-breed competition. Relinked other ref to breed shows. Montanabw(talk) 02:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
"…also meant that many unregistered mares of Haflinger type were covered by registered stallions" I don't know what is meant by "covered by" in this context
- It means "were mated by". Linked.
"The demand for pack horses and varying amounts of breed knowledge among purchasers" Purchasers wanted varying amounts of breed knowledge?
- Meh. Reworded slightly. It's still a little awkward, but see what you think.
- Agree, still a bit awkward. How about "The combination of a high demand for pack horses and variable amounts of breed knowledge of the purchasers led to the purchase of both high- and low-quality horses, which had mixed results on breed quality." Sasata (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
"many well known Bavarian studs" well-known"Haflinger breeding had to be changed to create a horse that complied with modern needs." What were the modern needs after the war was over?
- They were needed more as saddle horses and less as draft/war horses. Reworded a bit, did this fix it?
- I tweaked it a bit more, as Hafs are probably driven as much as ridden, tried "recreational uses," but feel free to revert if that wasn't an improvement. 02:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)~
"Around this same time,""Post-World War II Tyrol, as well as the breeding center at Zams, was under the control of American forces" was->were; as well as->including
- Changed to including, but I'm not sure about the first part. Wouldn't you say "Tyrol was under the control...", not "Tyrol were under the control"?
- Looking at this the next day, yes you're right. I initially thought because it was Tyol + another, it would be plural, but it sounds correct as written now. Sasata (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
link breed show
- Linked earlier when I changed something else.
"buyers' commission" buyer's (?)
- Changed to purchasing - easier all around.
"Southern Tyrol had no difficulty in selling its horses, as all of Italy was a market" not sure I understand what that last part means ... well okay maybe I do but it reads a bit odd to me.- link mechanization
- Really? Isn't it kind of a common term?
- I guess. But no more than horse, Austria, and Italy, linked in the lead sentence ;) Sasata (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
"Horses are graded based on conformation, action, bone," what is "action", and how do they grade "bone"?
- Action is gaits. Bone is based on how certain bones appear (or are measured) in comparison to the body - both too light of a frame or too stocky/coarse of a frame are penalized. Both terms linked.
the Haflinger website (Oklahoma State University, current ref #1) was last updated in 1996, shouldn't this be mentioned in the citation (i.e. as a publication date)?why not mention the name of Prometea's cloned offspring?