Wikipedia:Mobile communication bugs
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 | This page in a nutshell: Logged-out editors using the mobile web interface will not receive notifications when another user leaves them a user talk page message. Editors using a mobile app may not receive notifications regardless of whether they are logged in. |
Editor Feature
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Desktop | Mobile Web | iOS app | Android app | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| IP | User | IP | User | IP | User | IP | User | |
| Tag | (none) | Mobile web edit | iOS app edit | Android app edit | ||||
| "New message" alert[a] | Peach bar of doom | Miniature orange bar of doom[b] | Flaky[1][c] | Looks like other alerts[2] | No (?)[3] | Sometimes (since Jun 2022)[4][d] | Kinda, but subject to certain weird limitations[e][5] | Looks like other alerts |
| Other alerts[a] | — | Yes[f] | — | Yes | — | Sometimes (since Jun 2022)[4][d] | — | Yes[7] |
| Custom block messages | Yes | Yes | Yes[8] | Yes[8] | Yes (since Mar 2023)[9] | Yes (since Mar 2023)[9] | Seems flaky[10] | Yes[11] |
| Partial block shown as partial | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes[11] | Yes[11] |
| Editnotices[g] | Yes[h][i] | Yes[h][i] | Yes via T316178 and JavaScript gadget[12] | Yes via T316178 and JavaScript gadget[12] | Yes[13] | Yes[13] | Yes[14] | Yes[14] |
| Talk page banners (e.g. {{FAQ}}) | Yes | Yes | Hidden behind tiny link[15] | Hidden behind tiny link[15] | Prominently shown, but some messages are mangled | Prominently shown, but some messages are mangled | Shown as a regular section[j] | Shown as a regular section[j] |
| Custom edit filter messages | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes (since Mar 2023) | Yes (since Mar 2023) | Mostly[k][16] | Mostly[k][16] |
| CentralNotices[l] | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | No | No | No |
Other communication-related issues
[edit]- IPv6 addresses change frequently, yet there are no dedicated user talk pages for /64 ranges. Thus unregistered users with IPv6 addresses cannot be reached in a reliable way. (T112325)
See also
[edit]- WP:EditNoticesOnMobile – a partial workaround for T201595
Notes
[edit]- ^ a b Users with a confirmed email address will get an email by default. This can be turned off in their preferences.
- ^ Shown in Vector (default), MonoBook, and Modern skins. Looks like other alerts in Timeless and MinerveNeue skins.
- ^ Alert should appear on non-mainspace pages, and any time the user taps "edit". However a caching bug often prevents the alert from showing.
- ^ a b By default, push notifications are off. Unless turned on, the only indication of a new message is a tiny red dot on the homepage. It will not be seen while browsing or editing articles. On some non-mainspace pages, the Vector-2022 interface is shown, and that includes the standard alerts.
- ^ Requires the IP to save another page before showing it, and looks like a normal alert
- ^ (fixed January 2023) On Minerva skin (on desktop), notifications that are not alerts were not shown when opening the notification area. This means notifications like "thanks", "(pagename) has been reviewed" and "(user) replied in (topic)" were not shown. Mentions and talk page message notifications are alerts, so those were not affected.[6]
- ^ See also meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Mobile and apps/Mobile editnotices and phab:T201613. The WMF intends to pick this up. For individual wikis, a workaround for mobile web exists.
- ^ a b (fixed July 2022) On Minerva skin (on desktop), the notices were not shown since 18 July 2017 until 8 July 2022.
- ^ a b When using DiscussionTools, the notices are only shown for new sections.
- ^ a b They are shown as a regular section without subject, and also don't necessarily show up in a fixed location in the section list
- ^ a b Links in the message open in the browser, and go the language wiki of the users primary language (ie the first language they've set)
This means that as an example that an user whose languages are set as Dutch, English will always have links go to the Dutch Wikipedia, even when the message is displayed on the English Wikipedia - ^ CentralNotice banners can be configured to display only on some device classes as needed.
Phabricator tickets
[edit]- ^ phab:T295910: Yellow talk page message banner appearing inconsistently on edit page
- ^ phab:T240976: Mobile "new messages" notification should be more intrusive by default
- ^ phab:T312196: IP editor talk page notification
- ^ a b phab:T274404: Support notifications on the iOS app
- ^ phab:T291481: Determine approach for notifications for IP Editors on Android
- ^ phab:T306737 On Minerva desktop, notification icon only opens alerts (never notifications)
- ^ phab:T281413: Show notifications about Talk messages while browsing articles.
- ^ a b phab:T261944: Show full reason in mobile block message drawer
- ^ a b phab:T275118: iOS app does not show block messages
- ^ phab:T276149: Android application sometimes falsely claims that a user account is blocked
- ^ a b c phab:T276147: Android application does not show block messages
- ^ a b See also mw:Edit Check project
- ^ a b phab:T201596: iOS app does not present edit notices
- ^ a b phab:T201597: Android app does not present edit notices
- ^ a b phab:T312309: Unify experience for making lead section content available on mobile talk pages
- ^ a b phab:T276139: Android application does not display custom AbuseFilter messages