Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Gittings Kameny Fryer.jpg

Gittings Kameny Fryer

I asked for commentary on a similar image a couple years ago. Lahusen took thousands of images during the 1960s and 1970s during the infancy of the gay rights movement. The New York Public Library currently has her images in a Digital Collection. They allowed me to have two for Barbara Gittings' article, and I chose this one for its striking subject. As a gay psychiatrist, Dr. Fryer felt compelled to wear a grotesque mask and appear in costume. Homosexuality was still considered a mental disorder at the time, and Fryer felt he would be professionally ostracized for appearing without a disguise. I realize the pixel size is below 1,000, but this is the best size available from NYPL. I am asking for historical image exception for this one.

Creator: Moni3, uploader; Kay Lahusen, photographer

Nominated by: Moni3 (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I would ask on of the experienced FP people who do edits (I could always do it, if need be) if they could resize this one, and possibly sharpen it if possible. However, I think reality is that this pic is too un-sharp to be an FP. ₪Ceran →(cheer→chime →carol) 02:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tricky one. It's not a great picture, but makes a point very effectively. I wonder if people would object to the encyclopedic value it has with respect to any one of these individuals. It has some to be sure, but it is really most informative as a reflection of the social and scientific view of homosexuality rather than as an individual portrait; I wonder if there is a good place for it in some article detailing the history of homosexuality or psychiatry. Fletcher (talk) 03:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The image is already in Barbara Gittings and John E. Fryer. I'd like to reiterate per sharp, size, and composition that this could be judged on its historical value. Before knowing what the image was when I first saw it, I gasped. The mask Fryer is wearing to my younger eyes looks like Michael Myers from the Halloween franchise. I see it as very creepy. Learning then what the context of the image is seems even creepier. --Moni3 (talk) 03:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting subject. Unfortunately too weak on the technicals for consideration. Well below minimum size requirements and only 48K. Durova^Charge! 16:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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