Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2008 February 11

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February 11

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The image fails WP:NFCC#8. The use of this fair use image is not significant to the understanding of the topic. -Nv8200p talk 00:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Justices 3dca.jpg

Image:Justices 3dca.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nlu (notify | contribs).

It is replaceable by either text or possible individual images. It adds nothing of value to any article. Plus, it's orphaned. It was originally speedy deleted, but I restored it & brought it to IfD per user request. нмŵוτн τ 00:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think I've explained in the original notes as to why it is fair use, and I further explained on the talk page why it cannot easily be replaced. The only things that I can see it being replaced by are the portraits of the individual justices on the California Courts Web site (which will similarly be fair use, not free). There is no way to get these justices photographed in public; they won't agree to it. (It is orphaned only because you removed the link to it in California Courts of Appeal.) --Nlu (talk) 00:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) The argument is, does this article need an image? What does the image contribute to the article that text cannot? нмŵוτн τ 00:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- By that logic, why does any article need an image? The image allows the reader to see these justices (as well as the inside of the courtroom). --Nlu (talk) 00:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not clear to me why we can't just ask the court for a PD release. Being a U.S. court, they'd probably be one of the few institutions that would understand the concept and our justification for it. ;-) Kelvinc (talk) 07:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True. If the court ever releases a free one, we can always reupload it or add a new one. нмŵוτн τ 15:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Courts are public, aren't they? So a user could go and take photos of each justice and compile them into a collage. Failing that, the image is not integral to the article California Courts of Appeal and could be replaced with a link to [1]. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 19:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Cameras are not allowed inside courtrooms without filing motions and getting them granted, and they rarely are. --Nlu (talk) 17:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Nothing illustrates the court better than a photograph of the justices themselves, and attempting to photograph one of them, never mind all of them, is nearly impossible - besides accessing the facility, courtrooms in session do not allow that kind of disruption. That said, this is a low-quality image and a high-quality free substitute would be a most worthy endeavour. Dcoetzee 23:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A group picture of a bunch of judges is of almost no value to an encyclopedic understanding of the court on which they sit. Courts are known by their work, not their personalities....and definitely not the way they look. Few people know, or care to know, what even the most famous justices look like. Wikidemo (talk) 20:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The physical appearances of the judges are not relevant the topic of the article. I can see no way in which this could conceivably meet NFCC 8. CIreland (talk) 21:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Ghost of moonville tunnel 8-5-07.jpg

Image:Ghost of moonville tunnel 8-5-07.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Djlland (notify | contribs).

User-authored photo that claims to depict a ghost. Umm ... ok. B (talk) 00:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is not for what Wikipedia is. нмŵוτн τ 00:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per OR or HOAX. MBisanz ^talk 03:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I'd say a right handed smoker--Hu12 (talk) 03:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OR. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 19:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Images are frequently granted some latitude on original research, but an image created solely to advance a position, rather than illustrate a subject, is out of bounds. Dcoetzee 22:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not exactly regular OR but the photographic equivalent. Doesn't appear credible.Wikidemo (talk) 20:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; and Hu12 is correct— smoker (telltales signs include depth of field cues, focus and flash coloring). — Coren ^(talk) 16:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete hoax. Really. Compwhiz II^(Talk)_(Contribs) 21:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to put things strait. This picture was not altered in any way whatsoever. The date you refer to as New Years is inaccurate as the time the pic was taken. My camera automatically resets the date to new years when you change batteries. the pic was actually taken mid day August 5, 2007 as I stated in the article. I do still have the original file, it is completely unedited. Whether or not you believe it is a ghost is up to the individual. I cannot truely say myself that it was a ghost as I only seen it through the pic after developing the file at Walgreens. I have since retured to Moonville, taken several more photos in brighter light and did not capture anything significant. The pic in question was taken on a dim light, slightly rainy, foggy day. There was more to that day than what the pic shows but I did not bother writing all that in the article because I felt that would have been inappropriate use. Either way I felt this was a very good picture of the tunnel and it fits well into the whole story. I would appreciate it if you would allow it back in without the claims of ghosts. Thank you, djlland —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djlland (talk • contribs) 16:21, 22 January 2009

Image:20060125walls.jpg

Image:20060125walls.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Tmcdonald (notify | contribs).

Orphan, Copyright violation - The article this would go with was recently deleted for being a copyright violation (for the second time). The rest of the images uploaded by this editor are copyright violations, so this probably is as well. BlueAzure (talk) 00:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ada_Perkins_Flores.jpg

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The result of the debate was Keep

- nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closing) --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 20:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ada_Perkins_Flores.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Marine_69-71 (notify | contribs).

this photo could be replaced in the article with a free photo of a modern miss puerto rico Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - As you very well know, it is almost impossible to obtain a free photo of a Miss Puerto Rico (Puerto Rico goes with capital letters). There is a rationale for the use of Ada Perkins image and the first one is:1. The subject is no longer alive, she died in 1978, therefore the image in question is not replaceable. The image is suitable for the subject "Miss Puerto Rico" and also for the article "Irish immigration to Puerto Rico since she represents a Puerto Rican of Irish descent. Thank you Tony the Marine (talk) 02:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You'll notice I didn't use any capital letters in the previous sentence, don't get upset about it. Anyways the Miss Puerto Rico article could be illustrated by many former winners, many of whom are still living. (The contest appears to be held every year, until today. I assume you haven't contacted the publicists for any recent winners?) This picture could be replaced with a photo of another Miss Puerto Rico, which makes it replaceable. Calliopejen1 (talk) 03:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - With two minutes of clicking on links, I found two free images of former MPRs. Do you still think this particular image is needed? If so, why? Calliopejen1 (talk) 03:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, The image is revenant to the article about her Ada Perkins. Therefore, I respectfully request that the nomination be canceled, Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I withdraw the nomination, because I agree it is relevant to the newly created article. However, I still do not feel it is appropriate in the article Irish immigration to Puerto Rico, where it is again an unnecessary example of something for which many free images should be available (i.e. Irish Puerto Ricans). Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jen, Thank you. I will talk to you in your talk page about the Irish immigration to Puerto Rico infobox. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note - To closing admin. - deletion nomination withdrawn by nominator (see above). Tony the Marine (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Patasola.jpg

Image:Patasola.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Copyvio (as appears to be the case with most - if not all - photos uploaded by this user and from his "private collection"): Taken from this page - just changed size and turned 180 degrees (notice the sitting man in the background). Probably suitable for speedy deletion, but haven't had the time to check the procedure for that yet. Rabo3 (talk) 04:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:MonumentoGaitana.jpg

Image:MonumentoGaitana.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Copyvio (see also previous deletion request): Taken from this page Rabo3 (talk) 04:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Luzmarinazuluagamzales.JPG

Image:Luzmarinazuluagamzales.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

copyvio (as previos requests): Taken from here here - just cropped & turned 180 degrees Rabo3 (talk) 04:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Rinrin3.jpg

Image:Rinrin3.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvion. Taken from here. Rabo3 (talk) 05:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Iniridasummerflower.JPG

Image:Iniridasummerflower.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here - just cropped & turned 180 degrees. Rabo3 (talk) 05:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Borojofruit.jpg

Image:Borojofruit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here Rabo3 (talk) 05:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Corozofruit.JPG

Image:Corozofruit.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here - left section of the photo enlarged and turned 180 degrees Rabo3 (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Guamafruit.jpg

Image:Guamafruit.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here Rabo3 (talk) 05:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bordadocartago.jpg

Image:Bordadocartago.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here - just enlarged, cropped and turned 90 degress anticlockwise. Rabo3 (talk) 05:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:RocaAbra.jpg

Image:RocaAbra.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here - just enlarged and turned 180 degrees. Rabo3 (talk) 05:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Iniridarupestre.jpg

Image:Iniridarupestre.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Claimed as being public domain due to age, which is correct for the painting it shows, but not the photo, which is was taken by and is copyrighted to Femando Urbina. It can be found at the end of this page Rabo3 (talk) 06:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Obsolete: image was a user-downsized version of Image:Col kurd.jpg. Was uploaded in 2005, so probably uploader ignorance of Wiki image syntax for resizing. --Kelvinc (talk) 06:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "...so probably uploader ignorance of Wiki image syntax for resizing." - correct. Thanks for cleaning this up. --Cheese Sandwich (talk) 14:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Quimbayamuseum.jpg

Image:Quimbayamuseum.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here. Rabo3 (talk) 06:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Quimbayapottery.jpg

Image:Quimbayapottery.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here (if it doesn't load the first time, click F5) Rabo3 (talk) 07:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Chapolera.JPG

Image:Chapolera.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here. Rabo3 (talk) 07:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:DreamweaverMX2004MacOS_X.png

Image:DreamweaverMX2004MacOS_X.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mac_Davis (notify | contribs).

There is another screenshot of dreemweaver on Mac OS X. I think this image isn't really needed O s a m a K 07:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Comadreja.JPG

Image:Comadreja.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

orphan: Was uploaded as a Colombian Weasel (which would have been amazing, considering that this species is extremely rare; if this photo had shown that species, it would probably have been a first). Unfortunately, as evident by the facial markings, it is clearly not that species. Among species with such facial markings, it is most likely a Long-tailed Weasel (which already has a far better photo in its article). Additionally, based on this users history (see prev. deletion requests), it is probably a copyvio, too. Rabo3 (talk) 07:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Arhuaco.jpg

Image:Arhuaco.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio: Taken from here. Rabo3 (talk) 07:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete Based on the low resolution and lack of metadata, I'm going to go with experience that says the uploader is most likely not the copyright holder of these images. -Nv8200p talk 00:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Slide140.jpg

Image:Slide140.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dgillig (notify | contribs).

A pretty intrusive image, but I'm not sure that's a reason for deletion. However, I asked the uploader some weeks ago to confirm whether or not they actually took this photo themselves, and have heard nothing back as they don't appear to be an active contributor. Bingobangobongoboo (talk) 09:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose not hearing from someone is not a reason to delete something. They said it was PD-self, and unless you find otherwise the default is to believe them. And besides that, I think you could make a pretty strong fair use claim for this image. Ariel. (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Slide138.jpg

Image:Slide138.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dgillig (notify | contribs).

As with the above image, I've requested confirmation that the uploader actually took this photo themselves, but no response Bingobangobongoboo (talk) 09:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as above Ariel. (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Palmadecera stamp.jpg

Image:Palmadecera stamp.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio by this user: Taken from here (of note how the shadows along the edge align, being very narrow on the top, relatively narrow to the left, and relatively broad below and to the right). Despite its old fashioned style, this stamp is from 1985 (i.e. the copyright doesn't fall for age) Rabo3 (talk) 10:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Soldier-of-surrender.jpg

Image:Soldier-of-surrender.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dougy109 (notify | contribs).

This image copyright cannot be valid, (cannot be more than 100 years). The image was only used by the uploaded to vandalize the article, France

Image:Armenia1999earthq.JPG

Image:Armenia1999earthq.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio by this user: Actually copyrighted to William Torres/AFP and can be found here Rabo3 (talk) 13:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:NAL_Saras.jpg

Image:NAL_Saras.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rueben lys (notify | contribs).

Uploader claims that this image is licensed under CC-BY-2.0 (ie. commercial use allowed), however the license on the linked source page on Flickr disallows commercial use (CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0) High on a tree (talk) 14:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is wikipedia a commercial use? Or is the problem to do with a wrong license? I have never used a cc license, so I may have put a different template, but the editor who put the template could've could've fixed it himself. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 16:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Licenses which prohibit commercial use are not considered free in the sense required for Wikipedia content (see for example Wikipedia:Image use policy: Images which are listed as for non-commercial use only, by permission, or which restrict derivatives are unsuitable for Wikipedia and will be deleted on sight.). Unless this Flickr user agrees to release the photo under a license which allows commercial use, there is no way to fix this here. Regards, High on a tree (talk) 17:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Antropomorphicpoporo.jpg

Image:Antropomorphicpoporo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Koven.rm (notify | contribs).

Another copyvio by this user: Taken from here. Rabo3 (talk) 20:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Street sign vandalism.jpg

Image:Street sign vandalism.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ethern3t (notify | contribs).

There are enough pictures of vandalism on Wikipedia. See Vandalism. ^F*^L*^SUBS 23:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Copy to Commons. I see the point, but can we at least put it on Commons? ViperSnake151 02:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Flag Of Ghana.GIF

Image:Flag Of Ghana.GIF (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Maund002 (notify | contribs).

Redundant image; other images of the same flag already exist (see Image:Flag of Ghana.svg). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 23:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. replaced. It uploaded by a new user.--O s a m a K 18:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)