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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Hinduism. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

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  1. Edit this page and add {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}} to the top of the list. Replace "PageName" with the relevant article name, i.e. the one on the existing AFD discussion. Also, indicate the title of the article in the edit summary as it is particularly helpful to add a link to the article in the edit summary. When you save the page, the discussion will automatically appear.
  2. You should also tag the AfD by adding {{subst:delsort|Hinduism|~~~~}} to it, which will inform editors that it has been listed here. You may place this tag above or below the nomination statement or at the end of the discussion thread.
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You can also add and remove other discussions (prod, CfD, TfD etc.) related to Hinduism. For the other XfD's, the process is the same as AfD (except {{Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName}} is used for MFD and {{transclude xfd}} for the rest). For PRODs, adding a link with {{prodded}} will suffice.
Further information
For further information see Wikipedia's deletion policy and WP:AfD for general information about Articles for Deletion, including a list of article deletions sorted by day of nomination.


Archived discussions (starting from September 2007) may be found at:
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Hinduism

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Bhavishya Malika Puran

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Bhavishya Malika Puran (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose taking action on the article "Bhavishya Malika Puran" as it solely presents propaganda spread by news channels for financial gain. Context: The article is highly disputed, and its accuracy as a translation of the original Bhavishya Malika remains unverified. News channels have extensively covered this topic, primarily repeating the claims made by the Pandit. Unfortunately, the errors in this translated book, which appears to be motivated by financial interests, have gone unchallenged. Having carefully examined the book and its issues, I recommend one of the following actions: 1. Archive the article until credible evidence supporting its claims is provided. Or 2. Add a disclaimer to the article stating that it is a controversial issue and establish a Reception section to present a balanced view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharavela Deva (talk • contribs) 12:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sitakunda massacre

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Sitakunda massacre (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article did not meet the criteria for WP:N(E). Both sources provide limited information about the incident. One source even states: চন্দ্রনাথের মেলায় কী ঘটিয়াছে ১৯৫০ সালে, সেখানকার তীর্থযাত্রীদের কী নৃশংস পরিণতি হইয়াছে, সে কাহিনীর সঠিক বৃত্তান্ত আজো অজ্ঞাত। (What happened at the Chandranath Fair in 1950, and what brutal fate befell the pilgrims there—the exact details of the story remain unknown.) [Source: Sinha, Dinesh Chandra, ed. (2012). ১৯৫০: রক্তরঞ্জিত ঢাকা বরিশাল এবং [1950: Bloodstained Dhaka Barisal and more] (in Bengali). Kolkata: Codex. p. 71.]

During a Google search, I came across some social media posts, but all of them were either copied directly from Wikipedia or linked back to it. ―  ☪  Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 11:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:25, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per reasons stated by Pharaoh of the Wizards, I am sure eventually more sources will be found when more research is carried out on this topic. --Dynamo128 (talk) 20:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. I find the arguments for keeping the article to be completely lacking in P&G substance. Owen× ☎ 21:25, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lingayat Vani

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Lingayat Vani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is a POV fork of Lingayatism, created using WP:SYNTHESIS of poor sources to glorify Vaishya Vani caste while conflating it with a different community (Lingayats). Most sources and even most of the article only concerns Lingayats and not Vanis. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Hinduism, and Maharashtra. Shellwood (talk) 11:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ratnahastin Thank you for initiating this discussion. I would like to address the points raised in the nomination and demonstrate how the article meets Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, neutrality, and verifiability.
    1) Not a POV Fork
    The topic "Lingayat Vani" is distinct from "Lingayatism" and warrants its own article. While Lingayat Vani has historical and cultural links to Lingayatism, it represents a specific community with unique socio-economic and cultural characteristics. This is supported by independent and reliable sources cited in the article.
    The overlap with Lingayatism is a necessary background to provide context, but the article focuses on the Vani subgroup, not the broader religious identity. Such differentiation is aligned with Wikipedia's standards for splitting articles where subtopics merit detailed discussion.
    2) No Synthesis or Original Research
    The content adheres strictly to Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS. Each claim in the article is directly supported by sources. There is no combining of unrelated points to create new interpretations. Where sources discuss Lingayatism as part of the Vani community's background, it is presented as such, not conflated or misrepresented.
    3) Neutral Point of View
    The article's tone and structure aim to neutrally document the historical, cultural, and social aspects of the Lingayat Vani community. If there are any specific instances of perceived bias, they can be flagged for improvement.
    4) To all the respected Administrators.
    I believe the article on "Lingayat Vani" satisfies Wikipedia's core content policies and deserves to remain as a standalone page. I am happy to address any specific concerns or collaborate on improving the article further. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This comment is entirely AI generated. Please do not use chatbots, you should convey your views in your own words. - Ratnahastin (talk) 14:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ratnahastin Yes I agree I used chat gpt for this reply, I avoid using chatbots for such conversations. But believe me It has been a great time since sockpuppets have been trying to delete the article. I used chatbot in my reply as it saved some time. As a matter of fact even for the chatbot to provide a valid response It needs facts from my side. I sincerely apologize for using it and will never use it again on such discussions. I didn't knew we can't use it here. But I still abide by the views I shared in my prior comment. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just because you think the article is trying to "Glorify" a community, It doesn't mean it. It is a neutral documentation of cultural aspects of the community. I agree to edit anything if necessary, please initiate it in talk page before, rather than abruptly deleting it. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ratnahastin Please see: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Lingayat Vani
    I sincerely agree to further cooperate if anything directly or indirectly tries to glorify or exaggerate something. Please create a discussion for such topics. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bradv Hi again. Please tell how can I remove AFD tag from the article . I made some improvements in the articles that make it better and will keep adding later on. Currently I am a part time editor on wikipedia, I don't know how and when to remove it. @Ratnahastin is also not replying. Thanks for your help ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 17:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It will be removed automatically when this discussion concludes, at least one week from today. – bradv 17:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't see any need for this article given the main article covers it all. CharlesWain (talk) 12:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is an unbolded Keep argument in this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi @CharlesWain @Liz the main article "lingayatism" is about the religious sect. this article is about a prominent community holds a history of its own. This article is also prone to various sockpuppets trying to push their POV. I also need a discussion on this, any sort of debate is welcome. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 14:17, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ponyo @Liz @Bradv Hi! There have been multiple cases of sockpuppetry to vandalize this article earlier too. Please see:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1172 . I am a part-time editor on Wikipedia and always ready to make improvements and at the same time always resist such attacks on wiki pages which are nothing but POV pushing. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 16:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (for now) I am attempting to unravel the initial reasoning behind why this article needs to be deleted. Vaishya is mentioned only once in the article, so where is the synthesis? I also see 87 references in the article. Apart from a few websites, most appear to be secondary sources. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 06:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sources are poor snippet views and most lack page number making verification impossible. Many are from raj era which are considered unusable for caste articles. Most of the content pertains to Lingayats not Vanis. This article is so poor that it should be TNT'ed for now. - Ratnahastin (talk) 06:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve started reviewing it and will let you know if I feel it’s beyond recovery. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 08:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ratnahastin Those with snippet views will be replaced when the full documents will be found. That doesn't mean to delete whole page. Even the snippets clearly show the required information. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 10:16, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LeónGonsalvesofGoa Should I remove the tag now? Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What tag? - Ratnahastin (talk) 15:06, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ratnahastin The AFD notice on page. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 18:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LeónGonsalvesofGoa is the discussion closed? PerspicazHistorian (talk) 18:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion will only end when an admin closes it. - Ratnahastin (talk) 18:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bradv please close the discussion. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 18:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PerspicazHistorian Rather than concluding this discussion, let's explore further: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ALingayat_Vani&diff=1261042027&oldid=1260923834 LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
okay @LeónGonsalvesofGoa, i have no problem with it. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 07:20, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I almost never do a third relisting, but the article has changed and this discussion is a bit of a mess. Other people's views are needed, clearly citing policy and evidence. Those of you who have dominated this discussion need to restrain yourself (and I commend the decision to take part of the conversation elsewhere). Let fresh eyes see the material and fresh voices weigh in. If you keep responding to everything, you could potentially be admonished or worse for, among other things, WP:BLUDGEONING.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 09:40, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am the author of article and have every right to defend it and to achieve a clearer consensus i must reply to each comment. I dont think it's WP:BLUDGEONING. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 04:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The article addresses a community which has historical connections to Marathi culture rather than the main Lingayatism article. There are valid sources and references attached , moreover much of the article talk about the "Lingayat Vani" community rather than "Lingayats". The community has its own presence in Maharashtra with many prominent leaders and buisnessmen. No need to delete the whole article, just some edits in Lead needs to be done. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 17:34, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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