Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Guitar Hero/addition2

Guitar Hero (2nd supplementary nomination)

This topic is already featured. It is being re-nominated to add additional items. See Wikipedia talk:Featured topics/Guitar Hero for discussions of the topic's previous nominations. The additional items are:

Note that this also removes previous GA articles in the topic Guitar Hero: On Tour, Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades and Guitar Hero III Mobile.

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Articles

Guitar Hero series

Guitar Hero -

Guitar Hero II -

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock -

Guitar Hero World Tour -

Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s -

Guitar Hero: Smash Hits -

Guitar Hero: Aerosmith -

Guitar Hero: Metallica -

Guitar Hero: On Tour series -

Guitar Hero Mobile series -

List of songs in Guitar Hero -

List of songs in Guitar Hero II -

List of songs in Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock -

List of songs in Guitar Hero World Tour -

List of songs in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s -

List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith -

List of songs in Guitar Hero: Metallica -

List of songs in the Guitar Hero: On Tour series -

Cultural impact of the Guitar Hero series

There's two basic change here:

The GH: Metallica song list has been promoted to FL, so this is officially being added to the series.
Due to the nature of the articles with what is known for the upcoming Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits which is highly similar to the other On Tour games, it was decided to merge the two existing GAs Guitar Hero: On Tour and Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades into one article to be able the series, and another for the list of songs, groupping them into one since they are cross-game compatible. Note that the content of these were both from GAs but I have not yet begun (but will be) working them up the quality ladder. There will be more information on Modern Hits in the next week or so to complete that for at least a PR level. The original articles are thus being removed from the topic. --MASEM (t) 04:24, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support but are you saying you reckon the 2 new articles can't get GA/FL til Modern Hits comes out? You may well be right but I just wanted to clarify that - rst20xx (talk) 11:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, though with a bit more information I can likely at least PR them. --MASEM (t) 11:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, I've updated the retention period to reflect this. Just keeps getting more and more complicated with you, doesn't it? 9 retentions/future retentions, jeez! rst20xx (talk) 12:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - would waiting for the peer review of the combined article be a good idea, so change can be done all at once (I assume PR will not be so drawn out if it is a combination of GAs). Otherwise, support Metallica addition, now or later.Yob Mod 07:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that's a good point, if the two articles can't get included as GA/FL til Modern Hits is out, then you only need to include them as PR within the next 3 months. So maybe it would be simplest to list them both for PR now, and then add them and close this nom only once the PRs are finished? Will save another subsequent nom. Obviously this will only work if you want to do this, you have three months so... rst20xx (talk) 11:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see you put the article up for PR and the list up for FLC - rst20xx (talk) 21:45, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The FLC failed. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the article was created on 17 April, so doesn't need adding to the topic until 17 July, under the 3-month rule. (Although this does leave a temporary hole which is unfortunate but there you go) - rst20xx (talk) 23:20, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - what's going on here? The PR on Guitar Hero: On Tour series is completed so this article can be added now. List of songs in the Guitar Hero On Tour series failed its FLC but doesn't need adding until the 17th July - rst20xx (talk) 17:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've updated to ask for inclusion of the GHOT Series article (it only just got through PR). Of course, if Activision wouldn't kill me by announcing three new GH games before the years end.... --MASEM (t) 17:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Pres N 15:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - this has now hit an interesting snag (this topic is so complicated!) because Guitar Hero: Smash Hits (an article that hasn't been mentioned in this nom at all yet) should have been PRed and added to the article by the 4th June. My inclination Masem would be that it would be easiest if you just stuck it up for PR now and we close this (already epicly long) sup nom with the article included after the PR has finished. Otherwise, well then to be frank the topic is under threat from temporary demotion, which would be a bit silly over one PR and I don't think is something anyone wants to see. So would you be willing to get Smash Hits PRed now? rst20xx (talk) 10:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, activision is killing me here. I've put Smash Hits up on PR. --MASEM (t) 13:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I will note that due to size, a new article Cultural impact of the Guitar Hero series has been split from the GA Guitar Hero main article; this article is presently in active GAN review (like, as of today) and it is likely not going to go forward based on their comments (see Talk:Cultural impact of the Guitar Hero series/GA1) so I will modify and add that once that is completed. (I put this up for GA right after assuring the split was completed). Also, given that DJ Hero will be playable with guitar controllers, and suggestions from Activision that the DJ Hero controller will be usable in future GH titles, I will probably need to add this as future retention, and will PR it once I get a chance. I will note that if Activision keeps pulling this frequent release, I may need to consider this topic too difficult to maintain at least featured, but let's see what happens in the second half of this year. --MASEM (t) 18:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, it really does! I'll try and update the retention periods soon but erm the Cultural impact article has until 8 September to get GA and erm DJ Hero... 3 months from yesterday for PR? I dunno... Oh and the Van Halen article was created on 5 June so that has til 5 September for PR. And Guitar Hero 5 was created on 15 May so that has til the 15 August for PR. Also Modern Hits comes out this week, right? So you now have 3 months to get the two On Tour articles GAed/FLed. Think that's everything. Phew!
Oh and then of course there is the actual release of Smash Hits giving you til September 16 to get a GA there, and Van Halen will have til November 4 for that, and GH5 will have til December 1 for that, and DJ Hero will have til January 27 for GA. Also I'm a bit confused as to why Guitar Hero III Mobile gets an article but eg Guitar Hero World Tour Mobile doesn't. Is the former more notable, or would it be worth creating a general article for GH games on mobiles like you've now done for games on the DS? rst20xx (talk) 11:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Given what I've seen on coverage, I would probably convert the Mobile article to cover all the mobile games in the same manner as the GH:On Tour games; I will try to work on that as soon as possible. --MASEM (t) 15:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK sounds good. I guess when you do that, that will also get a 3 month retention before GA. So in summary for the time being we're waiting for the Smash Hits PR - rst20xx (talk) 17:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you have now made the mobile conversion - Guitar Hero Mobile series. Very nice work. This topic evolves so fast - rst20xx (talk) 13:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that I've added the recently GA-passed "Cultural impact..." article to the nomination. --MASEM (t) 15:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to note that dabomb was kind enough to give a thorough PR for this that we've resolved. Will wait for PR closure to add to nom (and then will be tossing to GAN since it's mostly complete) --MASEM (t) 04:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh I hate to point this out buuut.... List of songs in the Guitar Hero On Tour series has 11 days left on its retention. I can't believe this nom has gone on for so long! Though I suppose, all the while, the number of changes being made has been growing - rst20xx (talk) 21:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Its previous FLC failed due to input, so I've put it up again (and may help that the Modern hits set is complete now). --MASEM (t) 21:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update Wikipedia:Peer review/Guitar Hero: Smash Hits/archive1 has been closed, and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs in the Guitar Hero On Tour series/archive2 has drawn two supports and no opposes, seven days into the FLC. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Also noting that I've put Smash Hits to GAN once the PR closed, but probably shouldn't affect much here. --MASEM (t) 19:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so I imagine this FTA will close very soon. To recap, after it does, I think the retention periods will look like this:
- Guitar Hero series has
  - until 2009-08-15 to meet criteria 1.d. and 3.c. with article Guitar Hero 5.
  - until 2009-09-05 to meet criteria 1.d. and 3.c.. with article Guitar Hero: Van Halen.
  - until 2009-09-09 to meet criterion 3.a. with article Guitar Hero: On Tour series.
  - until 2009-09-16 to meet criterion 3.a. with article Guitar Hero Smash Hits.
  - until 2009-09-16 to meet criteria 1.d. and 3.c. with article DJ Hero.
  - until 2009-10-22 to meet criteria 1.d. and 3.c. with article Band Hero.
- From 2009-09-01, Guitar Hero series will have 3 months to meet criterion 3.a with article Guitar Hero 5.
- From 2009-10-27, Guitar Hero series will have 3 months to meet criterion 3.a with article DJ Hero.
- From the release dates of Guitar Hero: Van Halen and Band Hero, Guitar Hero series will have 3 months to meet criterion 3.a.
- From the creation of articles List of songs in Guitar Hero 5, List of songs in Guitar Hero: Van Halen, List of songs in DJ Hero and List of songs in Band Hero, Guitar Hero series will have 3 months to meet criteria 1.d. and 3.c.
Does this all seem right? That is a lot of targets to hit! But I suppose you have written Smash Hits to GA already and so it is 1 GA and 3 PRs in the next 2 months. After this FTA, you will have 8 out of 19 articles featured. 8 featured articles allows up to 24 articles in total whilst maintaining featured topic status, and as you need to add 3 articles in the next 2 months, you should be able to maintain this topic as featured for the time being. I think that that is everything covered :) :S rst20xx (talk) 12:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(Unfortunately for me) that sounds about right. Two things though: I would nix mention of GH:Hendrix - it was only mentioned once by Slash (the musican) and prior to the release of GHWT where two Hendrix tracks were included as well as DLC for him, so it may be have been confusion on the title. I would also presume the creation of "List of songs in Guitar Hero 5", since there 85 of them and more DLC will be forthcoming for that game, making the list article for the songs a virtual guarantee. (In contrast, I don't think we'll be needed a separate list for GHSH, it works fine where it is, and I can't tell about Van Halen or Band Hero. DJ Hero (which will have 80+ mixes, likely would but again, not created yet). It hasn't been created yet, but it would be the same 3 months from release as GH5 for 3a. --MASEM (t) 12:36, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK well let's delete Hendrix then and include the rest. If it becomes apparent any song lists won't be needed then obviously they can just be removed - rst20xx (talk) 12:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oversaturated much? :p Dabomb87 (talk) 21:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
...And Band Hero gets a PR retention too. Updated above - rst20xx (talk) 14:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
List of songs in the Guitar Hero: On Tour series has been promoted. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Close with consensus to promote - 3 months later! See you back here soon with GH5 :S rst20xx (talk) 10:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]