Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Briarcliff Manor/addition2

Briarcliff Manor (2nd supplementary nomination)

This topic is already featured. It is being re-nominated to add additional items. See Wikipedia talk:Featured topics/Briarcliff Manor for discussions of the topic's previous nominations. The additional items are:

First American International Road Race

I am nominating the newly-created First American International Road Race article to be added to this list of notable subjects related to Briarcliff Manor. Thank you. $ɱ$ (talk) 18:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose: I'm not sure I completely grasp the scope of this topic (it strikes me that "Scarborough Historic District" should perhaps be its own topic, and then the properties in that district would make better sense in that topic than here), but I suppose this race makes as much sense here as "Beechwood" does. If it is to be added, then the new article needs to be actually put into the topic box above. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey - yeah perhaps from the names it might be hard to put the pieces together. But if you read any of the Briarcliff history books, they focus on each of the village's historic sites above (many of which are in the Scarborough Historic District, Beechwood included). The road race is mentioned in every one of these books as one of the most prominent events centered in Briarcliff in the early 1900s, only a few years after it was founded.

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(talk) 19:52, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, but my point is that, if that's true (about the importance of the race to the history of Briarcliff Manor), then it was already true when the topic was first proposed, which means the topic was incomplete at that point and should never have been promoted. It looks to me as though this new article is really part of the subtopic "History of Briarcliff Manor" and doesn't belong in this main topic. After thinking this over, I'm shifting my vote to "weak oppose". I'll reiterate that it looks to me like this topic needs to be rethought, with all the individual historic sites within the historic district being moved into a subtopic. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 01:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

When the topic was proposed, I really didn't think there were enough sources for an article. Same goes for many other Briarcliff topics - churches, the synagogue, the village hall, post office, former train station, community center, Scarborough, Chilmark, the historical society, many of the parks, etc. None of those have articles, nor enough sources. But, hey, sometimes you stumble upon more, and I happened to for the race, and decided roughly five to six years after all those GAs were created to write another. And the historic district only has articles for three of its seven notable properties; not really a good case for a featured topic. This is the best collection of articles related to the village of Briarcliff Manor, with the road race as one of its most notable historical/international events a key important segment of the village's identity.

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(talk) 03:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - reading the comments on the original topic and yes, this would fit in, but it does open the topic up for some uncertainty, if the inclusion is not 100% crystal clear it makes it harder to say that it is "Complete" as such. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination has been stalled long enough. I am Closed with no consensus to add First American International Road Race to the topic. This can open up another attempt for another Supp nom or a nomination for removal. That can be the decision of whatever comes first. GamerPro64 17:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]